Well and truly Shocked at the way this forum has made me feel!

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A post earlier on today to which I replied has made me loose complete heart with HHO, the OP is not to blame she and one other were the only ones to take on what I was trying to say. I tried to point out that I AM NOT a 'parelli' tye. I took on a horse who had been well and truly damaged by the stupid ignorant fools who tried to break her in. She would proceed to throw every single one of them off. She was then sent to Grant Bazin- Mony Roberts demo rider and in 2 months he fianlly had her riding out. But even then her confidence was rock bottom, to handle shes a dream, but try to sit on her without gaining her confidence and you will not be on her for long. So- under the advice of her previous owner I watched a parellt DVD and now play the seven games. I play them for about 4/5 minutes, maybe longer if its a windy day and shes on edge. As soon as she licks/chews and softens I know shes happy with me and I can get on. No she "hasn't seen me coming" as one poster said. I am no fool believe me! I have been 100% sensitive with this little horse- and I am proud of what we have achieved. Admittedly before having her I wouldnt have batted an eyelid at Parelli especially when its being done by a toffee nosed, over stimulated woman Linda Parelli. But I learnt that sometimes we need to look out the box. What has truely shocked me is the attitude of people here and the comments towards my post- I was shot down for wanting to spend 10 min a day bonding with my horse- Hey if you think you can do better at riding her you are more than welcome to try and ride her without gaining her trust- and sorry but a pat on the nose and a carrot will not do the trick. Those that know me on here I have been riding for 18 years, I have competed to BD elementary, and I break and drive horses, but I am no expert and was willing to accept trying something new, actually the seven games are quite good fun if you do them quickly, and mix them up a little!
And finally no I do not agree with all Parelli methods- but I took was worked for my mare. I feel like never ever posting on this forum again- gosh to be laughed at like you guys did was more than enough to put anyone off!
 
Perhaps it was the way you phrased it that people found funny?
I don't much care if people laugh at me...we all have our moments with our horses....even genius types like me
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The key is not to take yourself seriously in the first place.
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I usually dont but when it comes to what I have manged to achieve that to me is very serious- and to have my achievement knocked like that.....
 
I think you are wrongly equating peoples' attitude to Parelli with their attitude to you...
But you have to admit, the way you phrased it regarding what your mare would 'let you' do was a bit funny
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Personally I'd read mine metaphysical poetry whilst dressed as an alien if that worked....
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Oh Shadowmonkey don't be put off by what others have to say; they are merely expressing their opinions in the same way as you are yours. I doubt they are laughing at you, more surprised, I expect.

I live in a different country and there are very different equine practices over here; lots of which I have mentioned on here. Some people accept that this is a different way of doing things and can see the merits in it whilst others think it is verging on barbaric - who cares? Certainly not me. I know my horses, I know what works for them, I know they are given the best of care and attention and that they will all turn out to be incredible equine specimens - that's all that matters at the end of the day.

Now you cheer yourself up - and don't even consider stopping posting on here you silly billy!
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I am kind of guilty of that attitude, but mostly around here its the numptys with no empathy for their horses that are looking for a 'magical' cure for their ineptitude. I am a great believer in making a bond with a horse/pony, I have had some real odd bods over the years, but with patience and respect they always come round. May be its just the marketing of these people that puts folk off?
Horsemanship and feeling is not something that you can learn from a video or demo, it is a skill which takes time and practice.
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Sorry for the way that you are made to feel. (BTW I havent read your OP, due to the errors with the forum).
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I didn't see the thread you are referring to, but I will say that a friend worked with my horse, doing the 'seven games' with him, and I was very impressed at the trust and confidence they gave him. My friend was able to do things with my horse that I wouldn't have thought possible, and, although I wouldn't want to go into Parelli in a serious way, I certainly wouldn't be against the use of some of the exercises in the way that you are describing. I am glad they are working for you
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I thought most people that commented on your particular situation said something along the lines of 'if it works for you that's great...'??? Didn't they???

I only commented on what I saw in the video, which was the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen.... but you do what you have to with each individual horse..

Don't take anything to heart, it's just a forum!
 
Sorry - I was one of those, but, was not having a go at you - you are right, it's good to look outside of the box, and if it works for your mare then it has to be good. I was most definately not laughing at you, but I do feel that, unlike yourself, a lot of people who practice parelli are lacking in good old common horsesense and are incapable of looking outside of their own personal boxes.
 
shadowmonkey............please dont take anything on here to heart. i sound like a hypocrit, i know, but this is something i learned only from experience. a few weeks ago, i posted about a particularly tricky experience where i ended up having to hit my horse with a whip ( i cant remember if u were involved in the discussion); many people supported my views on the situation, but some also chose to tear me limb from limb, and accuse me of submitting 'silly' posts, simply because i was asking for opinions, and daring to bring up topics that cause controversy. i think what im trying to say is that there are a lot of very opinionated peeps on here, who believe their way is the only way, and everyone else must be wrong. i believe that if you are going to participate in a forum discussion, you must be prepared to agree to disagree, so to speak. unfortunately, not everyone feels like this!!!

please dont get upset; i went through just what you are now, and really, you've just got to rise above it. as far as parelli is concerned, i didnt like what i saw, but i am completely open to the idea that it MUST work for some horses (else there would be no parelli!!) and its wonderful that it has helped your little mare; it is obviously the one way she can cope with normality, and thus in your case, should not be ridiculed!!!!!!

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Now that is not quite true.....

I read your thread MizElz and if I recall correctly you told everyone how you whipped your horse till it had blood and welt marks all over it - did you honestly think people would not make comment about that? The reason I didn't comment was because later on in your thread, after changing your tune a couple of times, you said that the horse wasn't hit that hard and wasn't bleeding....therefore who knows what actually went on, however I'll say this, if you did mark/damage your horse in the fashion which you told us about initially, then I can assure you that this will play heavily on your mind forever more. And if you didn't, then why tell thousands of people that you did?
 
Everyone has their own methods for their horses... I use a lot of Richard Maxwell's methods and they work for me and my horses, but then they might not work for the next person necessarily, and then again they might
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I am interested in all types of horsemanship and love watching all types of demos whether it be someone riding a kur test, or someone doing the ground work to establish the respect.

God, I don't think i'll ever post a pic of Grace when she has been given a good flick with the schooling whip... even if I just tap her as lightly as I can to get a reaction she comes up in a mark
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Silly chesnut skin, it marks if I look at it funny
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I really dont know the first thing about Parelli however after reading the previous post I feel that some people were extremely rude and I felt for you.
Call it Parelli call it bonding - the sound of spending 5 minutes relaxing and bonding with your horse sounds like a very good idea to me and im happy it helps you get on with a difficult mare - im sure some of the know it all types that dont feel they need to try anything as "stupid" as playing games with their horse - would get were you are now with your mare. Before anyone that knows me shots me down - I wonder if YOU know who will play games with UV before she warms him up for me !
Anyway the apologies seem to be rolling in and most of the time on this forum things can be taken completely wrong way and most people on here are actually really lovely and will offer sound help and advice when its asked for.
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Tia i read that thread too ..... Where does it say the horse had "blood and welt marks all over it"?

I read its "backside is now streaked with whipmarks"

No blood or marks all over it? Unless I have misread?
 
I have just read the other thread from start to finish and I do think the general trend was people saying "parelli" was a bit daft... and not you personally... esp that woman in the video eh???

If your mare needs this before you ride then it obviously does work well for you. Im sure other horses have little things they like you to do before you get on, ie have a mounting block in a certain place, etc. I know my old horse used to offer me a leg if I had forgotten to pull his legs forward after tightening his girth.

Horses are creatures of habit to an extent, and it would be interesting to see if you could break this habit with her. Gradually of course, to avoid you ending up in hospital!!!
 
I never said it was acceptable, its not but she also did not say the horse was covered in blood with marks all over it thats just plain exhaggerating.
 
I was paraphrasing - so sorry.

Here's MisElz actual quote; wouldn't want to be saying inaccuracies here;

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so i broke off a stick - and i mean a proper stick - and whacked her, and whacked her. we went forward at about two footsteps a minute, and i still had to keep hitting her (i have NEVER had to do this before, but this was a battle i had to win!) anyway, she suddenly decided 'all is fine' and plodded straight on over the non-existent stream, and pretended nothing had ever happened! but her backside is now streaked with raised stick-marks; bloody mare

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It's a shame because it often gets in the way of a good discussion, but on this forum the unwritten rules are:
1)you must never mention Parelli
2) never say you hit your horse
 
I'm afraid I don't care for "exhaggerating" - however I don't remember every single word of every single post on here.....do you? I do remember that she was telling everyone that her horse looked like an RSPCA case though.
 
Really? I would take exception to your second rule. I believe that the majority on here do indeed hit their horses, and they tell us about it quite happily.
 
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Oh really? Gosh you see what we all miss when we don't know people personally.

[/ QUOTE ] Exactly, because i can't tell if your being sarcastic or not!
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Now that is not quite true.....

I read your thread MizElz and if I recall correctly you told everyone how you whipped your horse till it had blood and welt marks all over it

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WTF!?!?!?!??!?!?

i NEVER said she had blood or welt marks ..... i said i had smacked her with the stick (three times, if i remember), and where she had sensitive skin, this had caused her hair to stand up. blood was never mentioned, so please, dont go digging into this to turn it into something you want to suit you.
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