Well baby coblet would appear to be backed...

Billie1007 said:
Keep on jabbin' Moomin, keep on jabbin'. Pretty sure you implied that this was your concern a few posts back *yawn*
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I couldn't give a monkey's backside what you find 'boring' - if you don't like it, don't read it.

If my child was injured due to some irresponsible person deciding to ride a newly backed youngster on the road with no bridle, then I would be taking it all the way to court.

It's no small wonder horse riders get a bad reputation on the roads.
 
Wigwam_bam said:
For crying out loud!

Just leave it, you've said what you wanted to say over and over again, why keep bringing this thread up?

Nothing happened, no-one was injured. CS wouldn't have even let her horse on the road without having complete trust in her horse not to do anything.


Blooming well get over yourself!!!
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She may well have trust, but anything can spook a horse, and though nothing happened, it COULD have.
 
Wigwam_bam said:
For crying out loud!

Just leave it, you've said what you wanted to say over and over again, why keep bringing this thread up?

Nothing happened, no-one was injured. CS wouldn't have even let her horse on the road without having complete trust in her horse not to do anything.


Blooming well get over yourself!!!
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Get over MYSELF?:rolleyes:

This is a public forum. I can post where I like.

And by the way, I have only posted three times on this thread.

Don't like, don't read.
 
Ahhh yes, I remember the day I caused a car crash as my horse galloped blindly through junctions. If only I'd given it a tug on the bit, forgot I'd have had full control!
 
zigzag said:
You don't have full control in a headcollar..... and it is also illegal to ride in a headcollar. So what is your point on that?
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I don't think anybody has 'full' control of their horse whether in headcollar or bridle, a horse is an animal and if it reacts to something I don't think it really gives a second thought about what's on it's head, it'll react anyway.
 
Wigwam_bam said:
She may well have as much control in a headcollar as she would in a bridle, I've known horses to be absolute pigs in a simple snaffle bridle, but you could do anything with them (Ridden and in-hand) in a headcollar easily.
Its not all about controlling the horse with a piece of metal in its mouth, its voice, legs and seat, and of course, trust in the horse and the basic groundwork (Which CS has put in) of bombproofing the horse, reading through her previous threads that cob has been introduced to all sorts, and is used to alot. Which is great.
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Yes its great the groundwork that she done on him, But its ILLEGAL to RIDE on a public highway in a headcollar...
 
Actually I've been giving this thread a lot of thought and I have revised my opinion.

CS the only way you will learn your lesson is to be burnt at the stake. Sparkles will be turned into tesco burgers for his part in this heinous crime.

Then and only then can we move on from this. I know some people may not think this is a severe enough punishment but on balance I think its about right.

(For the record Immy I completely agree. If folk really think a saddle and bridle can magically stop some sort of a dreadful accident with half a tonne of cob who suddenly woke up and had a psychotic episode, it shows what sort of horsewoman they are. The legal side is a separate issue and since an accident did not occur, there is no problem, I am sure CS has now got the message and will never do it again).
 
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FfionWinnie said:
Actually I've been giving this thread a lot of thought and I have revised my opinion.

CS the only way you will learn your lesson is to be burnt at the stake. Sparkles will be turned into tesco burgers for his part in this heinous crime.

Then and only then can we move on from this. I know some people may not think this is a severe enough punishment but on balance I think its about right.

(For the record Immy I completely agree. If folk really think a saddle and bridle can magically stop some sort of a dreadful accident with half a tonne of cob who suddenly woke up and had a psychotic episode, it shows what sort of horsewoman they are. The legal side is a separate issue and since an accident did not occur, there is no problem, I am sure CS has now got the message and will never do it again).
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LOL :D. Are you not lambing yet??? We are in full flow here:eek:.
 
It is interesting that the only leg left standing seems to be the legal one, yes we can't get away from that one so do keep harping on about it.
 
Billie1007 said:
It is interesting that the only leg left standing seems to be the legal one, yes we can't get away from that one so do keep harping on about it.
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It's not just about the legal side.

You can hardly use the argument of 'well you wouldn't be able to stop a bolting horse with a bridle, so it doesn't matter if she wasn't using one'. It's akin to saying 'well wearing a hat isn't going to guarantee that someone won't get killed by a fall, so it doesn't matter if she didn't wear one.
 
Moomin you are very tiresome. Yes, because that's so obviously what I meant and I so clearly wasn't responding to the comment that suggested we have full control in a bridle...
 
Billie1007 said:
Moomin you are very tiresome. Yes, because that's so obviously what I meant and I so clearly wasn't responding to the comment that suggested we have full control in a bridle...
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Ha ha!!

I am tiresome because I have made an entire four comments on this entire thread? Or I am tiresome because I dare to have an opinion other than yours?:rolleyes:
 
Big Ben said:
This screen captured from the video that CS posted

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It is my guess that if that were a DragonDriving ad, or a newbie sharing the joy of riding their 2 year old, that there would be an outcry from many people.
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I'm not a newbie, and when I first got my mud monster I planned on backing him at 4, due to a number of reasons including his size, temperament, the fact that he had a mature frame and the fact that after losing ebs he seriously needed something to focus on and a change in environment he was backed at 3, the autumn before I had done some lunging and long reining because he got bored and fractious, so he had that little bit of work over a period of about 2-3 weeks a few times a week, then nothing until he turned 3 last July when he went off to be backed (3yrs 1 month) and I got a few outcries over backing at 3! But truly he adores his work we mainly hacked out until the end of December, a max of 5 sessions of work a week including short lunging sessions, slowly working up to having short canters- hacks lasted a max of 1/2 hr, in December we added a couple of sessions of schooling per week in walk and trot, again working up to the last couple of sessions adding canter, then he has had a nice holiday since then.

I think 'reading' the horse is key, on the one hand I wouldn't want any horse of mine sat on before it was three, but a sit on and jump off, is not going to emotionally or physically scar the horse. So whilst CS hasn't done it how i would (and no I certainly wouldn't be riding on the road like that) I don't think she can be accused of doing anything particularly 'wrong' the horse looks happy and calm and there is a lovely moment when CS gets of the coblet and he turns for a kiss.


18 months ago, I wouldn't have dreamed of backing before 4, but now I start to think its far more about how sympathetically the process is done, and not always about a 'milestone' age.

Referring to Big Bens screen shot, yes, you could see something like that on DD, but I doubt that it would cause outcry. The horse is well fed, the rider had a hat on, the rider is not hammering the horse into the ground, the horse looks calm, and the horse is not far off three... It is not considerably bum high
 
******! I read a post, carried on reading the first page, wrote a response... Posted it then read on only to realise its an old thread that has slowly descended into typical HHO chaos!:o:p:D
 
Thats great, not been around for a while so I have missed your little features with your wonderful little star, and seeing the pics still as GAWJUS as ever. Well done the pair of you look forward to hearing more about your exploits :D:D
 
Queenbee said:
I'm not a newbie, and when I first got my mud monster I planned on backing him at 4, due to a number of reasons including his size, temperament, the fact that he had a mature frame and the fact that after losing ebs he seriously needed something to focus on and a change in environment he was backed at 3, the autumn before I had done some lunging and long reining because he got bored and fractious, so he had that little bit of work over a period of about 2-3 weeks a few times a week, then nothing until he turned 3 last July when he went off to be backed (3yrs 1 month) and I got a few outcries over backing at 3! But truly he adores his work we mainly hacked out until the end of December, a max of 5 sessions of work a week including short lunging sessions, slowly working up to having short canters- hacks lasted a max of 1/2 hr, in December we added a couple of sessions of schooling per week in walk and trot, again working up to the last couple of sessions adding canter, then he has had a nice holiday since then.

I think 'reading' the horse is key, on the one hand I wouldn't want any horse of mine sat on before it was three, but a sit on and jump off, is not going to emotionally or physically scar the horse. So whilst CS hasn't done it how i would (and no I certainly wouldn't be riding on the road like that) I don't think she can be accused of doing anything particularly 'wrong' the horse looks happy and calm and there is a lovely moment when CS gets of the coblet and he turns for a kiss.


18 months ago, I wouldn't have dreamed of backing before 4, but now I start to think its far more about how sympathetically the process is done, and not always about a 'milestone' age.

Referring to Big Bens screen shot, yes, you could see something like that on DD, but I doubt that it would cause outcry. The horse is well fed, the rider had a hat on, the rider is not hammering the horse into the ground, the horse looks calm, and the horse is not far off three... It is not considerably bum high
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^ Agreed QB, I wouldn't do it in a headcollar, not due to control but insurance, and I'd leave longer... but the horse is happy and isn't being heavily schooled or ridden but a potter around. I also love CS posts and photos as her and the horse always look happy and relaxed. I certainly wouldn't see that on DD and do this... :eek:;)

On the other hand... BBs previous photos have looked far more like something I'd cringe at on DD. An overweight rider on a horse not built to take it, as a lot of DD seems to be. That's the kind of photo I look at and feel sorry for the horse.
 
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