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Some of you might remember I was having some difficulty keeping one of our Labradors from running off. I can happily report all is now sorted.

Anyhow, brief background, after losing two of my dogs in very quick succession last year I was lucky enough to rehome a 3 year old show Labrador and a few weeks later another Labrador working lines bitch of the same age. Had some trouble with the second one (Jessie) being a dedicated escapee but that is now resolved thank goodness. All details here in this thread if interested on further background https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/please-help-if-you-can.806741/

The elderly man we bought Jessie from, claimed to be rehoming her as he was off travelling to see some of his children in far flung places (right in the middle of covid - but whatever!) We have dedicated retraining Jessie and setting things up here to keep her safe from roaming etc. We, and a friend of ours who works and breeds field trial dogs, are convinced she was a rogue field trial dog that the old guy was eager to get rid of for obvious reasons.

He phoned me yesterday, claiming he just wanted to know how she is and I assured him she is very happy and settled and we all love her very much and she and my other lab get on really well. He reminded me when we got Jess he had also given Jessie's son to his own son to look after while he was on his travels and now his son wanted to keep the dog he had bred from Jessie, fair enough and your point is.? Conversation went along the lines he missed having a dog and was looking for a similar type of dog to Jess, either a small working spaniel or Labrador (why working lines, if you claimed last year you never worked Jess?). I wished him luck with his search for a new dog and thought no more of it.

He has just texted me saying if we decide to breed from Jessie can he have first refusal on one of her pups as he now regrets getting rid of her! Stupid, slow on the uptake me, last nights phone call was obviously putting some feelers out to get Jessie back! Damn cheek of the man and why would he want her back anyway as he obviously didn't care enough about her to just sell her on to anybody without any background checks. Plus she is now spayed and even if she wasn't he would be one of the last people I would let a pup go to! I am not even going to bother to reply, he has just made me very cross on her behalf.

sorry - long rant no point to the post - just flabbergasted at the nerve of the man! Now even more curious about exactly what he did use her for, was she just a breeding bitch, was she actually a good working dog that he now wants back. If she was, she certainly lost the plot with her training when she first arrived poor little thing!
 

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Some of you might remember I was having some difficulty keeping one of our Labradors from running off. I can happily report all is now sorted.

Anyhow, brief background, after losing two of my dogs in very quick succession last year I was lucky enough to rehome a 3 year old show Labrador and a few weeks later another Labrador working lines bitch of the same age. Had some trouble with the second one (Jessie) being a dedicated escapee but that is now resolved thank goodness. All details here in this thread if interested on further background https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/please-help-if-you-can.806741/

The elderly man we bought Jessie from, claimed to be rehoming her as he was off travelling to see some of his children in far flung places (right in the middle of covid - but whatever!) We have dedicated retraining Jessie and setting things up here to keep her safe from roaming etc. We, and a friend of ours who works and breeds field trial dogs, are convinced she was a rogue field trial dog that the old guy was eager to get rid of for obvious reasons.

He phoned me yesterday, claiming he just wanted to know how she is and I assured him she is very happy and settled and we all love her very much and she and my other lab get on really well. He reminded me when we got Jess he had also given Jessie's son to his own son to look after while he was on his travels and now his son wanted to keep the dog he had bred from Jessie, fair enough and your point is.? Conversation went along the lines he missed having a dog and was looking for a similar type of dog to Jess, either a small working spaniel or Labrador (why working lines, if you claimed last year you never worked Jess?). I wished him luck with his search for a new dog and thought no more of it.

He has just texted me saying if we decide to breed from Jessie can he have first refusal on one of her pups as he now regrets getting rid of her! Stupid, slow on the uptake me, last nights phone call was obviously putting some feelers out to get Jessie back! Damn cheek of the man and why would he want her back anyway as he obviously didn't care enough about her to just sell her on to anybody without any background checks. Plus she is now spayed and even if she wasn't he would be one of the last people I would let a pup go to! I am not even going to bother to reply, he has just made me very cross on her behalf.

sorry - long rant no point to the post - just flabbergasted at the nerve of the man! Now even more curious about exactly what he did use her for, was she just a breeding bitch, was she actually a good working dog that he now wants back. If she was, she certainly lost the plot with her training when she first arrived poor little thing!

Thsts a cheek and a half. Also why would you breed if the bitch goes rogue?
 

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Thsts a cheek and a half. Also why would you breed if the bitch goes rogue?

Exactly my thoughts, but I now wonder did she only 'go rogue' when she came to us as she was more distressed than we realised at being rehomed like that? After all, she was just handed over to random people she didn't know in a car park! It just makes me so angry that such a lovely natured little dog could be treated in such an off hand way when it was inconvenient for him to keep her :mad:
 

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you are on the winning side..you can either ignore him or say kindly that she’s been spayed and is very happy and settled now.You can say if you do hear of anything suitable for him you will be sure,to let him know……………..and block him.:)

Oh absolutely we are the winners here thats for sure - I haven't answered him and I have now blocked him off my phone. I can't 'do' kindly with people who use pets and horses and dogs in particular as a very much disposable commodity.
 

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I know you’ve blocked him, but I would actually respond to him saying she’s been spayed. And then block if you feel it’s necessary.

Purely out of interest, why would you given the background to the whole saga? No point really my responding to him, if he is now blocked I cant hear from him again which suits us just fine. And I am certain I told him when we got her that she would be spayed, but really don't think I am obliged to respond to him or let him know she is spayed.

We have never heard from him since the day we took her. On the only occasion I telephoned him to ask again had she been used as a working dog to help us work out how best to help her, he out and out lied that she had never been worked. A mutual friend later sent me quite a long video of him out working her with some of his friends!

So no, I don't feel obliged to respond to him in anyway.
 

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We’ve just taken on a three year old lab bitch, a worker, with skin issues. She was taken into the vets to be put down as the owner couldn’t (or whatever ?) get on top of the issue, vet agreed, nurse intervened and took her home, where she was kept alone in kennels whilst the other six dogs lived in the house.

Bitch was super stressed and lonely, is cheering up no end and skin issue which is probably food related is improving daily. Nurse racked up the price when we said the bitch was doing so well - nurse was politely negotiated with!
 

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I'd be suspicious that the previous owner might come sniffing round trying to re appropriate his former property. If you tell him that she's now now spayed, and then block him, then he might lose interest in her anyway.


Which were my thoughts.

Well he make come up this end of the country whenever he likes and try and re appropriate our dog. We have a signed bill of sale (we did actually pay for her - she was not a freebie) we have her IKC registered in our name with the portion sent to IKC where he signs her over as sold to us as new owners. We have all her paperwork and her microchip is also now officially signed over and is registered in our name and address.

I hardly think he will travel nearly 200 miles to try and take her off us when everything is nailed down legally and without any room for misunderstanding by either him or us or the IKC or the microchip company.

However if he does ever turn up here trying to to remove her from our property I will update on how that turned out for him!??

Seriously though, I do understand where you are coming from and thanks for pointing that out, but is highly unlikely in this case. He is simply a chancer trying his luck, he will have the message loud and clear when he realises he is blocked.
 
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