Welsh D's - do they all dish?!

[Shilasdair]

If the horse's movement isn't straight, it's leg conformation isn't straight.

Any deviation puts additional strain on aspects of the limb, predisposing it to lameness.

 

[Cortez]

If the horse's movement isn't straight, it's leg conformation isn't straight.

Any deviation puts additional strain on aspects of the limb, predisposing it to lameness.

Nope. Never had a lame horse that dished. Had several lame horses that moved straight and were straight, so that isn't an absolute.

 

[Shilasdair]

'Predisposed' to lameness does not mean 'guaranteed' to have lameness.

There are many other things that cause lameness even in a horse with good conformation - as you note - so why look for extra trouble by buying a dishing nightmare? I appreciate that some people think dishing is 'flashy'.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

I think of this video whenever dishing is discussed. You can see that the (desirable for the breed - Peruvian Paso) 'termino' movement comes from the shoulder. It still looks a bit odd to me and I've watched videos of Pasos a few times. Maybe I need to see it IRL to really understand it?

 

[Mule]

I think of this video whenever dishing is discussed. You can see that the (desirable for the breed - Peruvian Paso) 'termino' movement comes from the shoulder. It still looks a bit odd to me and I've watched videos of Pasos a few times. Maybe I need to see it IRL to really understand it?

In slow motion it looks like it's doing a jig!

 

[Cortez]

I've trained Pasos, both Peruvian and Fino, and love them to bits. They are tough, sound little horses that fly along in the smoothest gait ever.

There are many cultural conformational "givens" with horses that ain't necessarily coupled with actual evidence......

 

[EstherYoung]

The Welshies I have known have tended to move incredibly straight. Mind you I am comparing with Arabs who are all over the place ;-)

 

[flying_high]

Returning to the OP and the horse for sale - For me the fact that it is not symmetrical, the dishing is different in each front leg, and more marked in one leg than the other, would concern me more, than the fact the horse dished. Different movement in one front leg to the other, IMO is a potential warning sign for future issues. Symmetrical deviances of any kind less so.

 

[Bellaboo18]

No, absolutely not! Mine did not, I wouldn’t have bought him if he had done - I don’t think it’s necessarily a sign of unsoundness, it’s just something I don’t really like

I agree. Nothing to do with soundness just a personal thing that I don't like.

 

[SpringArising]

'Predisposed' to lameness does not mean 'guaranteed' to have lameness.

There are many other things that cause lameness even in a horse with good conformation - as you note - so why look for extra trouble by buying a dishing nightmare? I appreciate that some people think dishing is 'flashy'.

Because as it's been mentioned, dishing isn't an indicator of lameness or lameness to come.

 

[Hormonal Filly]

Mines pure D, never dished. Sounds like it was their excuse.. I know quite a few friends with pure D's and non dish.

 

[blitznbobs]

If the horse's movement isn't straight, it's leg conformation isn't straight.

Any deviation puts additional strain on aspects of the limb, predisposing it to lameness.

That’s not what my vet said it’s not what the leg does in the air it’s what it does when it hits the ground - if the foot lands flat it’s fine and not a risk factor for lameness

 

[Green Bean]

When I was looking for a horse last year, I didn't go and see one because he dished on the one leg. Just a personal thing, but then ended up with a mare that used to forge quite a bit but now that she has been in proper work, doesn't anymore. (didn't even know it was a thing until I googled it!)

 

[rara007]

The big moving inhand ones tend to. Mine was straight but comparatively not much action!

 

[ester]

That’s not what my vet said it’s not what the leg does in the air it’s what it does when it hits the ground - if the foot lands flat it’s fine and not a risk factor for lameness

That's my understanding too, if they are landing straight it's not really an issue to worry about.