Welsh Section D pedigree

Taffy many years ago... His an old lad now.
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Sorry OP just picked up this thread............ I've got a little Welsh D mare on loan and she's got "Nebo" bloodlines; she's more the "finer" type of Welsh D, i.e. not so heavily built as some bloodlines are, but I'm too numpty about the whole Welsh Cob thing to be able to throw any more enlightenment on the subject. Why don't you ring a Welsh D breeder? They'd be sure to know what's what!!! And IME are always very happy to talk about Welsh Cobs!!!:)

IF you're going to see one with Nebo bloodline................ and if he/she is half as nice as my little loan mare, you'll be very happy indeed.

Tho' do bear in mind that Welsh D's are very much their own person and will constantly remind you of that fact:), and (sorry, don't know your experience) for that reason are probably not ideal for a novice or first-time owner, simply because they can tend to be feisty and/or independent thinkers!!!! Tho' always great fun!
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Tho' do bear in mind that Welsh D's are very much their own person and will constantly remind you of that fact:), and (sorry, don't know your experience) for that reason are probably not ideal for a novice or first-time owner, simply because they can tend to be feisty and/or independent thinkers!!!! Tho' always great fun!
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Yes this is what my boy is like! He knows exactly what he wants, he knows how to play up and hes always up to mischief but i do love him and hes the funniest, daftest pony Ive ever met! Keep finding him stood on the bottom rail of the gate pearing over (its 8 foot aswell built to keep stallions in haha). He always manages to undo his leadrope and wanders off down the yard to the nearest hay net, but hes so eager to please and really easy to teach, once he gets to grips on what your trying to make him do, hell do it, especially if there is a treat involved!!
 
Thanks cambrica

he has such a lovely jump to sit to (think springs on his feet!), he is retired now and doesnt get ridden.

He would jump like that one day but then the next he would plant at a pole! ha ha Bl***y welshie!
 
Lovely seeing everyone's cobs, all gorgeous :) We have quite a few on our yard, being in South Wales, and it's so interesting to see all the different types and how they're bred.

This is my boy's breeding:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gwernewydd+sianco

By Fronarth Victor out of a mare sired by Gwynfaes Culhwch, dam was Minyffordd Maid Miriam. He's rising 4 and has had a saddle & bridle on, been long reined and sat on once but I'm waiting for the weather to improve before breaking him. It's been nice the last week so hopefully I can book some leave and crack on with him in the next month or so. Unfortunately I don't have any up to date photos as he looks like a bog monster at the moment, having lived out all winter :D
 
MyDogIsAnIdiot said:
Love seeing pictures of everyones D's!

Does anyone know much about my girls breeding? http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/maesnewydd+modlen
I'm interested as to how big she'll end up, currently 15hh (and a bit!) at rising 4, her sire was 16.2 and I'm told her dam was about 16 too!

Obligatory photos (hunting last Sat!):
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Wow with legs like that she's the supermodel of the Welsh world! Her sire being 16.2 is probably not favourable in the traditionalists eyes but as a sport horse to compete I would imagine she would be fabulous. Lovely looking horse!
Have you done a string test on her front knee to coronet? It's pretty accurate and will give you her mature height. She probably won't stop growing until 7-8 yo.
 
Meant to say, he has the obligatory Nebo Black Magic in his lines lol. He has a couple of others that occur more than once but thankfully they're way back. Some cobs have a lot more than that, it's terrible!

Some translations from his bloodlines:
Gwernewydd means New Shade. Sianco is an old Welsh name, you don't hear it often now. He was bred in mid-Wales, prime cob country, so it suits him well.
Fronarth Boneddiges, his grandmother, means Fronarth Lady. Fron-arth is Bear-breast!
Derwen Telynor means Derwen Harpist
Penllwynuchel Seren Olaf means Penllwynuchel (Top High Hedge) Last Star
Crugbar Mabon Mai means Crugbar Mary's Son
Brenin Gwalia means King of Wales, Gwalia being an old word for Wales
Caradog Llwyd is interesting. Llwyd is grey but I think it's meant to be grizzly, which is another meaning for llwyd.
Derwen Seren Teledu means Derwen TV Star
Henblas Hudwr Du means Henblas (Old Place or Palace) Black Seducer
Arthen Eirlys means Arthen (Bear) Snowdrop
Arthen Perl means Arthen Pearl
Hendu Brenin means Old House King
 
muffinino said:
Lovely seeing everyone's cobs, all gorgeous :) We have quite a few on our yard, being in South Wales, and it's so interesting to see all the different types and how they're bred.

This is my boy's breeding:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gwernewydd+sianco

By Fronarth Victor out of a mare sired by Gwynfaes Culhwch, dam was Minyffordd Maid Miriam. He's rising 4 and has had a saddle & bridle on, been long reined and sat on once but I'm waiting for the weather to improve before breaking him. It's been nice the last week so hopefully I can book some leave and crack on with him in the next month or so. Unfortunately I don't have any up to date photos as he looks like a bog monster at the moment, having lived out all winter :D
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Just look at your boy's pedigree :) His Grandsire Fronarth Victor is a Royal Welsh winner in the Stallion class and 2nd place the following year. His Grand grand sire also a winner. Imo two truely exquiste cobs.
http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile.php?name=Fronarth Victor

http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile.php?name=Ebbw Victor

Sorry edited to say Sire and Grandsire !!
 
cambrica said:
Just look at your boy's pedigree :) His Grandsire Fronarth Victor is a Royal Welsh winner in the Stallion class and 2nd place the following year. His Grand grand sire also a winner. Imo two truely exquiste cobs.
http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile.php?name=Fronarth Victor

http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile.php?name=Ebbw Victor

Sorry edited to say Sire and Grandsire !!
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They were superb, he has a lot to live up to! In fact, the photograph on his advert was very poor and he was a mis-shaped, hairy yearling so the breeding was the only reason I went to see him :D He has a lovely nature and Fronarth colouring (black, 4 whites and a heart-shaped star). His grandmother Boneddiges is one of the best cob mares and won the George cup. He has a similar face to her and the same colouring. I'm hoping to show him under saddle and do some dressage on him but we'll see. He's such a darling horse that as long as he's happy in life I'll be happy.
 
muffinino said:
They were superb, he has a lot to live up to! In fact, the photograph on his advert was very poor and he was a mis-shaped, hairy yearling so the breeding was the only reason I went to see him :D He has a lovely nature and Fronarth colouring (black, 4 whites and a heart-shaped star). His grandmother Boneddiges is one of the best cob mares and won the George cup. He has a similar face to her and the same colouring. I'm hoping to show him under saddle and do some dressage on him but we'll see. He's such a darling horse that as long as he's happy in life I'll be happy.
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Well I would love to see some photo's when you have some to show!
Ceredigion - mid Wales seems to be the home of the Welsh Cob, mine was from Lampeter.
 
cambrica said:
Well I would love to see some photo's when you have some to show!
Ceredigion - mid Wales seems to be the home of the Welsh Cob, mine was from Lampeter.
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He's from a place that's on a level with Aberaeron on the map, albeit more towards the heart of Wales ;) I have some photos from when I first had him and as a two year old but no updated ones. Once the weather breaks and he loses a bit of winter fluff, I'll take some and post them. As he stands now I'd have to scrape inches of mud from him from the hock down - you can't tell he has 4 whites at the moment lol.
 
Has anybody got a Section D that's breeding is actually Section C?

I believe that when they outgrow the height limit (13.2hh) they 'become' Ds? My mare is full C breeding, by Northleach Gigolo, but is nearly a hand overheight....so what is she??! (Apart from a princess!!).
 
Girlracer said:
She reminds me a lot of my boy, except he's less leggy! :)
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Every time I see photos of your boy I despair that mine never manages to have such a glowing mane and tail! You might find that he shoots up a bit in the next few months - Maddie went from 14.2 and bum high in Oct, to 15(ish) and still a bit bum high by January!

Wow with legs like that she's the supermodel of the Welsh world! Her sire being 16.2 is probably not favourable in the traditionalists eyes but as a sport horse to compete I would imagine she would be fabulous. Lovely looking horse!
Have you done a string test on her front knee to coronet? It's pretty accurate and will give you her mature height. She probably won't stop growing until 7-8 yo.
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Haha, I'll have to tell her that! I'm hoping to do some BE with her - she's proving to be very brave and trainable already. She's now the yard 'go to' horse for nannying babies on their first time out of the school; not bad for one who's only been under saddle since October. I did the string test and it came out at 15.2 so I'm hoping she stops there, though I imagine that she will get wider too. You wouldn't think that I'm 5'6 to look at those photos. Though she is looking especially lanky at the moment.
 
MyDogIsAnIdiot said:
Every time I see photos of your boy I despair that mine never manages to have such a glowing mane and tail! You might find that he shoots up a bit in the next few months - Maddie went from 14.2 and bum high in Oct, to 15(ish) and still a bit bum high by January!
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I do have a bit of OCD when it comes to washing his mane and tail but he is quite good at keeping himself clean :D

That is really good to hear, he is bang on 14.2 and bum high at the moment, hoping he'll make 15+. He's quite short coupled and has a good buck on him, but he's under strict instructions to keep it to his field time!
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Sorry OP just picked up this thread............ I've got a little Welsh D mare on loan and she's got "Nebo" bloodlines; she's more the "finer" type of Welsh D, i.e. not so heavily built as some bloodlines are, but I'm too numpty about the whole Welsh Cob thing to be able to throw any more enlightenment on the subject. Why don't you ring a Welsh D breeder? They'd be sure to know what's what!!! And IME are always very happy to talk about Welsh Cobs!!!:)

IF you're going to see one with Nebo bloodline................ and if he/she is half as nice as my little loan mare, you'll be very happy indeed.

Tho' do bear in mind that Welsh D's are very much their own person and will constantly remind you of that fact:), and (sorry, don't know your experience) for that reason are probably not ideal for a novice or first-time owner, simply because they can tend to be feisty and/or independent thinkers!!!! Tho' always great fun!
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That's a really good idea! As he's from Llanarth, I'll give them a call and see what they can tell me.

He does have a little bit of Nebo in him, but only a little.

Definitely! First time proper owner, but I've had shares and been responsible for sole charge of a couple of ex polo ponies (one bolshy, the other terrified of her own shadow) and worked with/exercised some very sharp and excitable polo ponies.. I found a livery yard a while ago - they breed and produce eventers and have said that they're more than happy to provide support when and where needed. Combined with friends that have backed and broken their own (one had a welsh D, but I'm not sure what her breeding was) I'm making sure that I have a very strong support network in place - plus I'm good at asking questions/for help before things turn into a train wreck ;)
 
Girlracer said:
I do have a bit of OCD when it comes to washing his mane and tail but he is quite good at keeping himself clean :D

That is really good to hear, he is bang on 14.2 and bum high at the moment, hoping he'll make 15+. He's quite short coupled and has a good buck on him, but he's under strict instructions to keep it to his field time!
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I've always admired how clean he is :D Oakley really is a stunning boy!
 
Elvis said:
My sisters Welsh D, seems to have non of the popular breeding- no Nebo lines at all.

Could someone have a look:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cwmhowi+prince+valiant

It doesn't overly matter to us, he's 18 this year, and a 'light' welsh d who is more a jumper type than for showing.
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The colt I'm seeing on Sunday has Ebbw Prince and Cathedine Pride II in his bloodlines :) He also has Cahn Dafydd and Rhosfarch Frenin
 
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