Went to the New Years Meet (on foot) and I saw.......

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*binds hands carefully to avoid any confrontational replies*
I have made a vow of indifference for 2008
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Did someone say she didn't deserve the pony? If thats the case then I agree, the fact she makes a mistake doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her pony - I still make mistakes with rock. What I am saying is that she shouldn't be cooed over because she doesnt have a horsey background - I didn't have a horsey family but wasnt cooed over everytime I made a mistake - I was shown my mistake and that was that.
 
GI yes someone did say that you have a responsibilty of care for your horse & that you should not owNnuntil completely capable (not quoting word for word) but you get the gist! IM NOT COOING OVER HER AT ALL BECAUSE SHE DOESNT HAVE A HORSEY BACKGROUND. (not quiet sure you should come to that conclusion?) Im just saying have we all forgotten whats its like to be young & inexperienced but so deeply in love with our ponies & riding. Yes we all make mistakes & continue to do so . Why should the horsey world be any different to any other.
 
The thing is GI, noone IS cooing over her, the responses are coming from the fact that some posters are blatantly saying she shouldn't have a pony, end of, so so so wrong. If you read my original post, I say that I sidled up and tell her that she has put it on the wrong way and that I will show her how to do it properly, I don't think that is cooing?
 
Ah well if you look back a few replies ago I did actually say that I would have done the exact same thing as you did in that situation. By the cooing thing I was referring to, um I can't actually remember its on the first page and i'm far too intoxicated to go back a page and rewrite all this lol sorry!
 
I wish more people were like you wizoz, the number of times i hear someone making snide comments about something someone else has done wrong, whilst never actually having the intelligence and manners to go and point out the mistake in a polite way. How else do we learn!!
I remember my first day working at a riding school at the age of 9, i was asked to take apart and clean a bridle then put the bridle back together, which i did wrong! No one explained to me what i done wrong, the older girls just winged behind my back!
I was lucky enough to keep my first pony at a lovely yard full of helpful people and i learnt through doing!
This girl was probably just chuffed to be out hunting on her beloved pony! No need to take it off her for somehting so small!
Im sure even after many years riding and horse owning i still get things wrong!
 
Regardless of whether this kid is starting off on her own or not, she should not have a pony of her own in the first place if she doesn't know how to do the basics?
GI do you also remember posting this? not so sympathetic huh. Glad your pony or horse never suffered at the hands of an inexperienced youngster. As you say yourself you wernt born of a horsey backgorund must be great born knowing everything about horses/ponies.
 
Aha and what charity do you work for liveryblues?
I agree that if someone doesn't know the basics, which WAS suggested, then she shouldn't have a pony until she knows. If this was one mistake then fair enough be corrected and take it on board but from what OP says, this child is struggling to do things? Just the way I read it? So you DO have to ask yourself why in she bought a pony in the first place rather than investing in maybe a loan pony or a riding school thing or two? I used to go every weekend of my holidays to the local riding school to learn things before I bought my pony.

HOWEVER she does have the pony and therefore needs guidance and to help (like OP is proposing) not cooing over and saying aww poor girl. It's not aww poor girl its ok well this is the situation so make the best out of it.

I'm not sympathetic no - SO SUE ME
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Well done to the girl for daring to go hunting when she's not that experienced. She obviously doesn't lack confidence and is sure to be grateful (not upset) that someone who knows more offers advice. I think you did the right thing!
 
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Nobody said she didnt know basics, mearly that a bit was not correctly fitted. Something which i am big enough too admit to myself, not through lack of experience as i have owned & bred for years. An oversight? In a rush? Distracted? Should i not own horses either? Did i read a thread in the last few days were you were asking for advice on schooling a pony who kept falling in? Are you not experienced? should you not own? do you know what your doing??? Please do not act like you are all knowing & all seeing, none of us are. Opinions are like assh**es, they all stink, & none so much as yours. Please atleast least read what you have written & stick too it!
 
Gosh you're not very nice are you. At least I don't have a mouth like trash
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Yes you did read a post about a pony that fell in - I got my physio out to look at it infact who said the pony has deformed muscles in said shoulder and cannot physically work properly until they are normal so really i dont think any of my experience could have corrected that AND asking for a schooling exercise is hardly incorrectly fitting a bit.
If I had read too much into what OP said and this girl IS experienced in the basics then fair enough I take that back.

People like you make me laugh. If you dont like my opinion don't read it. Unless you really are the age you're acting in that case you have an excuse. *rolls eyes* go back to your playground.
 
I'm not going to get involved in the mudslinging - good intentions for 2008 didn't last very long for some, did they.
Well done to you for putting her straight and not doing it to a wider audience, inexperienced owners need all the help and support they can get, and you know the good ones because they are prepared to listen and learn.
Why was the pony wearing a pelham? Maybe that is what it came with, and it only has the one!
 
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I taught people to ride for years...and have worked in the industry for quite a while, typically teaching people who didn't know anything or much initially.
At the same time I've had my share of lessons and lectures from many an instructor and trainer.
I never felt it necessary to be disrespectful of people who happened to know less than me, nor would I expect such behaviour from the people who taught me, or it would have lessened my opinion of them dramatically.
If someone makes an error....help them if you can, correct their error...then move on....there is no call for some of the comments on this thread.
Hell has no places reserved for genuine horse/pony owners who make mistakes....we do have limited space
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Isnt it funny How some people but in on a thread, then change what they originally said then get all deffensive when challenged, at least have the conviction to stick with what you said originally! (which if you bother to read everything i said, i have!)
So GI you havent ever sworn on hear? hmmm honest now!!? You jumped in at the deffence of breeze calling people rude for expressing their own opinion. Well ditto if you dont like mine dont read it. If you were so experienced you would have realised your pony had a prob. Which brings me neatly back to my original imput... Be kind to those who seem not to know, for they could be stars of the future. Remember what its like to be young & enthusiastic (Hopefully you will never meet people who would like to trample youthfull inexperience) Thank god this is a forum & not reality, riding would be even more elitist.
 
Oh I swear - but I THINK, i dont tend to swear AT people - i'm sure you'll correct me of i'm wrong.
I don't mind people expressing their opinion at all - I just think sometimes people get rude with it and I think its uneccesary - I dont even know breeze but could see he/she was getting jumped on and defended him/her! GOOD GOD someone shoot me!
Yeh I have read back and did contradict what I said - I do apologise i'm on my fifth glass of wine as didnt drink last night
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but then again...aren't you the one preaching that people make mistakes blah blah blah what were you saying again? Lol sorry.

Can you also read back PLEASE and count the number of times (TWICE) that I said I AGREED with the OP and would have done the same thing as her PERLEASE. Answer that. Cheers love.

(Oh and by the way I did realise the pony had a prob hence why i got the physio - duh. And its not my pony, i'm a freelance rider).
 
Just so we are straight , i didnt swear at you.... luv! Yes you did say at least twice that you would have done the same as OP. but initially you did say she shouldnt have a pony if she didnt know the basics. I think the point we were all trying to make was to jump to that conclusion was totally out of order. Also if you are going to try & make intelligent input maybe best not to do it on your fifth glass of wine? just a sugestion.... but hey what do i know.....
 
Well seeing as I spent most of my intelligent time of the day actually riding the horses rather than writing about them this is really my only time to do it
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Yes I agree jumping to that conclusion was, in hindsight, grossly unfair of me. I have actually said that a few posts ago if you do care to read back? So do tell me sweety, why the need to continue to berate me? I've admitted jumping to that conclusion was wrong but stand by my original statement that IF she doesn't know the basics she shouldnt have a pony (in this case I was wrong and clearly she DOES know the basics). So where is there left go on this thread? Would you like to start insulting my personal life as well as my professional life or would you prefer to choose the random insults option?
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Was this a specific invitation for liveryblues, or can anyone accept the offer?
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Ok dear as its obvious you have become highly sensitive & deffensive. Im off to bed, Please remember this is only a forum where we are all entitled to our opinions, none more wrong or right than the next, We all feel passionately about what we believe to be right but accept that doesnt necassarily make us right. I have no personal gripe with you & wish you all the best.
 
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That is exactly what I wanted to hear, not some holier than though comments from people who "never do anything wrong"!!

Bah, we all have to start somewhere
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Love ya Lou !
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And as someone said, wished there were more people like you !
So much for the recent thread on forum etiquette...
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Well I have to say, I didn't intend for my original post to cause such a stir but I think it is plain to see the divide in how people think and act.

I will always help people who need it, because that is my nature. It isn't my nature to bitch but I can get passionate and probably defensive about things sometimes.

I don't see why, because a 14 year old girl cannot fit a bit correctly that she shouldn't have a pony at all
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And like I said previously, WE ALL had to start somewhere.


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I dont know. This is a hard one. When I got my first pony, I come from a non-horsey family. However, we kept everything simple with regard to tack, so nice simple bit etc. Even at the young age I was at, I wouldnt have got a bit which I didnt know how to use / fit! And we asked knowledgable friends for help a lot. I would assume this girl was advised by someone to use the bit, it should have been them who showed her how to fit it. I think she needs to join pony club, its how I learnt so much as a youngster!

Everyone has to start somewhere. It is difficult to make the transition from riding school lessons to owning an actual pony, as with lessons you don't generally take part in any of the other parts like rugging / tack etc. I think riding schools need to offer more pretend "horse owning days" where pupils get a far more hands on approach.
 
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I disagree with you it is the end of the world. At no time is there an excuse for suffering especially through ignorance so therefore before you buy a horse you should know how to use the equipment it stands to good reason in all other spheres of life for example ownership of a car overship of a firearm.

You can attend numerous courses where this information can be taught properly. If you want to see the results of badly fitted bits go to any welfare sanctuary the places are full of them.

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Calm down will you!!!
EVERYONE has to start somewhere!!! Some people are lucky enough to be born into horsie families, other aren't!!!! We have to learn for ourselves and in some case learn from our mistakes!!!
 
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