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Well, in a sense
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HELP!!

Take a look at this video please, and tell me what you think?

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She does it at 30 secs, 50 secs, 1 min 05 secs, 1 min 25 secs, 1 min 35 secs, 1 min 45 secs, 1 min 57 secs. That's what, 7 times in 2 minutes??
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She's absolutley fine healthwise: Vet was here for jabs and got her to check Tolly over.

Tolly is my new mare by the way, who I've had for two weeks on Monday.

In regards to the video, it's not scaring me in the slightest: it's scaring my mother more! Just wondered what you guys would do about it.

Cheers
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Firstly well done for staying on and well sat!

IMHO it is looking like she is in a hurry to rush to the jump, and when you are walking her she isn't getting there as fast as she'd like. Have you tried only flatwork and no jumping? Is it the first time she has done this with you? I think if you can make her work in walk and trot without jumping she should improve *hopefully* but until then good luck!
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This is my first lesson with her, as I've had her two weeks on Monday. Apparantly she always rushes the jumps and is always fast, so I thought: Right, this is my horse (Pony!) now and I want to get her going how I want. You can see from the video that she has other ideas!
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She only does this when I don't let her get her own way before a jump, so we're going to start working on me being the boss... I already have a lesson booked on Tuesday and 4 more paid for after that!

I just find it a bit funny how a fat cobby mare can throw such a hissy fit!
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Very well sat!!! I would ask a physio and chiropract to check her over as well as have her teeth looked at vets are not always the best person to ask! Does she only do it when jumping?
 
She's not in pain
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I'm sure. It's pure high jinks! Only when I don't let her have her own way. Usually jumping but she has done it twice out hacking.

I am trying to get her to stand over the first pole then approach the jump: she is disagreeing *rolls eyes*
 
That was funny. Very well sat. You need to don some nice white breeches and leather long boots and lose the stirrups and you're all ready to join the Spanish Riding School! No advice I'm afraid other than what's already been said - work on reminding her who is the boss and doing plenty of flatwork. I would spend plenty of time schooling on the flat but with a jump set up in the middle - but don't use it!
 
I was thinking of writing to them, with a video tape and asking them whether they'd take me on
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Maybe I should train her to do it... She could be the next Milton! (The jump was a 3ft spread
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She beats the Lipizzaner's hands down.
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I wouldn't want to advice you about anything as I feel I am not experienced enough to do so, but I would stick to flat work for a while and pole work and try and get that okay with her and you being the boss in those situations before jumping her, good luck and very well sat!
 
She looks like she is anticipating you turning her to the jump. I don't think walking her down the long side then turning her into the fence and expecting her to canter and jump is helping your cause at all. I would try to get her at least trotting in a rythm over poles and be a bit more fluid.

Having the jump set up on the centre line also makes it difficult for you as you have to do a sharp turn into it which is going to ruin her rythm every time, try to have it just set up off the track and then you can get a nice turn into it.

Was that taken during your lesson?
 
Yes that was taking during the lesson.

Fair points, but I must point out that we were not trying to establish a rhythm, as this was my first lesson on her, more to give me a feel of what she can do as this is what, the 7th time I have ridden her ever.

What is my "cause" by the way? Just wondering, as this post was purely to see what other people on here would do if their horse did that.

EDIT: Yes, that was taken during my lesson. I can always upload videos of when we got it right, as you have only seen a mere 2 minutes of an hour lesson.
 
Your cause I would imagine is to be able to jump a course of fences or have I got it wrong and you do really want to join the spanish riding school.
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Why wouldn't you want to establish a rhythm? its the basic requirement of being able to jump. Don't understand why your instructor would want your horse to do that, if it was me having a lesson on her I would want help to get to the fence correctly not see how high she could capriole.
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There was clearly an imaginary jump(s) that we all couldn't see...!
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Echo very well sat and your poor mum!
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I think what Diesel Dog meant about not helping your cause is that by making her walk along the long sides and then turn into the jump was increasing her anticipation as it often looks as though she’s going “wahey! – and to the jump!” as she gets to the top end… I think thats what DD meant any way!
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Exactley little mare, your going down the long side going wait wait wait turn lets go it's like the start of a race, no wonder shes going ye ha
 
Sorry but if that horse was mine there is no way she'd be jumping until she had more respect for her rider. Like DieselDog I don't think it helps where the jump is set up & knowing the mare is keen I'm surprised your teacher set it up that way.

Good luck with her, she's certainly athletic!
 
All I can say is well sat! My boy has done one or two of them on me but again through excitement & wanting to 'get going' but never that many in a row....and he doesn't do them any more I hasten to add or we may have parted company....

Good advice so far and again

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I have seen this before in a horse that is on my yard. He's a hackney x shire and had a total lack of balance and basic schooling. He would do exactly the same as your mare when put under pressure to work "properly" he would mostly do it through the trot to canter transitions. He couldn't canter well and he would leap through the air to avoid stepping under and through into the transition, resulting in an uncomfy running action as fast as possible. Jumping was always done as fast as physically possible with a "get from one side to the other" leap at the end.

Ths horse underwent back to basic schooling with lots of lunging with side reins and is now much more balanced than he was, he can canter correctly and hasn't done any high school movements for months. I suggest you maybe do the same with your mare. Go right back to the beginning and establish her working from behind according to what you want and not what she wishes to do. How old is she? Do you know her history?

Good luck with her though, there is alot of power there, just think how she will be if she uses herself better
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Well done for staying on hun! God Ty has done that with me before and I ended up on the floor!

Looks like excitment to me - she must love her jumping! xx
 
Hilarious..bless your pony!!

However, IMO, this is seriously bad manners and need nipping in the bud! I wouldn't jump her again until you have established some manners over trotting poles. I know it can be fun but in the long run its doing her no favours and for a moment (while she caprioles) you are totally out of control..
Good luck and seriously cute pony
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Gosh C_B no wonder your mother is having kittens! Very well sat though!

If she were mine I would do as others have suggested and focus on flatwork and manners- how are you going to manage her out on a hack if she decides she wants to do something?

Noticed you have another video there on youtube of this behaviour that looks a little more concerning- like she is napping towards the jump and then taking off with you over it? You say the jump is a 3ft spread, if it is then what was going on was really quite dangerous! I would not want a pony taking off with me over such a big jump at such close range. Perhaps it looks worse than it was, hard to gauge anything from a minute of video but please be very careful with her, when she goes up to Capriole she really goes up...
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Also, apologies for commenting on a video you didn't even post
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I hope you don't mind. Really hope you can get things sorted with her, she's a very pretty ponio
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Just watched this one now as well.

Mmmm. What exactly was the point of the exercises your trainer was doing with you? I know that I commented previously that the horse is feeling well, which it obviously is, but it would be nice to have some control.
 
We had three stride poles as she has trouble with rhythm going over the fence, but then my trainer noticed she was falling onto the forehand so she pulled the first pole back a couple of strides and I was to come in trot, half-halt over the first pole to set her back on her hocks and then canter to the fence, thinking about my turn afterwards.

The first couple of times she did this well, but after doing this twice off each rein, she began to nap away from the pole, as she was realising that it was inhibiting (sp?) her from doing as she likes in the approach to the jump. Then we started napping away from the pole, which is what she is doing in the video.
 
I agree with the others, rhythm is the key, be that in trot/walk or canter. She needs to learn that coming to anything (be that a pole or a x pole) with energy and balance will mean she's able to do it in a calm and relaxed manner.

A long run up is the last thing I would do with a horse like this. I would be more inclined to start with a single ground pole on a 20m circle, work on riding the circle in a relaxed, accurate manner and aim for her to not change a thing going over the pole. Then work towards the pole becoming a small x pole.

Well sat though, and well done for not getting cross and seeing it through
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well they were very out of the blue!there is nothing more scarey than a cob doing capriole
and well sat you even kept your position!
i would agree with the anticipation thing but its not on for her to leaping about like that.is she very young or not turnout out much?
did you try to tell her off at all?
 
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