What’s happening with PrinceFluffyKareem?

Very, very sad. But having spent yesterday evening reading various posts etc I think I sort of understand what may have happened (nothing untoward as far as I can gather).

I wish PFK every continued success.
 
I knew they were being weird about Sherif's status with PFK.
Shame to hear. I hope for the sake of the animals that the charity can recover from this, but I'm not too optimistic, if purely from the public handling of the situation by the trustees.

People supported Marte and Sheriff as much as they did the horses. They really should have handled it a bit better so that It was a joint statement from Marte and the Trustees I think, then there wouldn’t have been all this speculation. PFK was as much about the people, I wonder if the trustees forgot that.
 
Like many I have supported PFK for a number of years and will continue to do so. I am sad that there has been a parting of the ways, however such is life. I am extremely concerned however that some of the negative comments and snide insinuations being posted on some FB pages may be from those who just possibly have a vested interest in seeing PFK go under in the hope that donors may transfer their support to other mentioned charities. I suggest people stop judging, wait for the situation to calm and for the PFK arrangements to be clarified.
 
Can you enlighten those of us who haven’t a clue? ?

I suspect that Marte found herself unable to work under the conditions that had to be applied now that PFK are a registered charity, and bound by the conditions becoming a charity created. Having founded the organisation initially and used to working under her own steam with Sherif (and not answerable to anyone), being relegated to a staff member, answerable to others, must have been tremendously difficult. Now there are rules that legally have to be followed, Trustees, accountants and accountability. Having gone from a two man band to a registered charity is one hell of an adjustment (a massive one), and Marte wouldn’t be the first to step away from an organisation following such a reorganisation. I suspect it’s the same in many ways for Sherif.

I really do hope that once the sadness and distress has passed she can look back on what she’s achieved with an enormous sense of pride. She is a remarkable woman and I hope her legacy continues successfully for many, many years to come.

There are, unfortunately, the usual keyboard warriors sticking the knife in on the PFK Facebook page (they love situations like this sadly), as well as the Fluffy Feet Farrier page. And I really hope they don’t derail things for PFK. The work they’ve done in the past, and will hopefully do in the future, can’t be underestimated. And that is all down to Marte and Sherif. Clearly becoming a registered charity and all the organisational support that that inevitably brings was the sensible way to move forward, as they had become so big. But it must be hard to hand over control essentially to others.

It’s of course clear to most that the Trustees could have handled things much, much better in terms of their communication with donators, sponsors and followers. But at the end of the day it’s the animals that matter, and I do hope that people remember that.

I could of course be completely wrong. But that’s my reading of the situation.
 
I think there were both big pros and cons to having UK charity status, the pros being more money, the con being having to account for it all in a country possibly not set up for that.
I hope that it was a joint decision to do and that both sides were understood.

It is interesting that the suggested 'alternative' is Aussie registered just on the fact that being registered must likely help a fair bit then.

It has also certainly changed as a set up over recent times, with none of the sort of outreach stuff (nosebands/saddlepads etc) going on and with more pretty permanent residents, I don't know if that was more post move rather than a planned shift.
 
I suspect that Marte found herself unable to work under the conditions that had to be applied now that PFK are a registered charity, and bound by the conditions becoming a charity created. Having founded the organisation initially and used to working under her own steam with Sherif (and not answerable to anyone), being relegated to a staff member, answerable to others, must have been tremendously difficult. Now there are rules that legally have to be followed, Trustees, accountants and accountability. Having gone from a two man band to a registered charity is one hell of an adjustment (a massive one), and Marte wouldn’t be the first to step away from an organisation following such a reorganisation. I suspect it’s the same in many ways for Sherif.

I really do hope that once the sadness and distress has passed she can look back on what she’s achieved with an enormous sense of pride. She is a remarkable woman and I hope her legacy continues successfully for many, many years to come.

There are, unfortunately, the usual keyboard warriors sticking the knife in on the PFK Facebook page (they love situations like this sadly), as well as the Fluffy Feet Farrier page. And I really hope they don’t derail things for PFK. The work they’ve done in the past, and will hopefully do in the future, can’t be underestimated. And that is all down to Marte and Sherif. Clearly becoming a registered charity and all the organisational support that that inevitably brings was the sensible way to move forward, as they had become so big. But it must be hard to hand over control essentially to others.

It’s of course clear to most that the Trustees could have handled things much, much better in terms of their communication with donators, sponsors and followers. But at the end of the day it’s the animals that matter, and I do hope that people remember that.

I could of course be completely wrong. But that’s my reading of the situation.

to a large extent it is my reading of the situation as well but mine would probably go a bit further in the direction of the accounts and that is the bit that would concern me especially the bit about legal action. You don't take legal action over a few book keeping errors.
 
I've just been looking at that! I don't know... I'm hoping they don't lose Sherif, too. There was a comment that someone made on one of the posts about Sherif being busy at the riding school, and Maryanne replied saying that there would be 'organisational changes' coming to PFK - hoping that means more support rather than Sherif also stepping down. Easy to read between the lines and get it wrong though, so I'll just wait and see, and try and avoid jumping to conclusions... Difficult to discuss really, without coming over as gossipy! Most of us can only go off what they choose to put on their FB page...

I hope they get through it.

Sadly, Sherif went a few days ago.
 
Yeah, I saw the video... Sad.

I was watching it unfold initially but I've stopped now, especially with the reopening of the second Facebook page - it's all becoming such a (you know what) show and I'm not interested in the cat fights between snarky volunteers and M&S devotees. I get the trustees are limited in the comments they can make by the apparent legal proceedings, and Marte is silent - so everything else is just hearsay and squabbling.

Will leave my donation in place for now and wait.
 
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Really helpful - thanks.
Am working and it's very long, so just skimread, but very useful to have it in the H&H thread.
 
Unfortunately it has just become trial by FB - separated into two camps, with particularly the we love M & S camp refusing to consider any other viewpoint or scenario. It's also interesting that both sides claim to have reported the other to the Charity Commissioners! I will continue to donate for now and wait for the outcome of any formal investigation.
 
Well I was completely wrong in what I thought had happened. Still not any clearer if I’m honest ??‍♀️
 
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