What’s happening with PrinceFluffyKareem?

Amymay said:
Which makes no sense at all. Why you walk away from everything you’ve built up, to start again? I wish everyone well, and of course PFK, but boy it’s a strange one ?
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Well I read the FB post and it all made sense to me. If you thought a charities Trustees were not complying with charity law, and or not distributing funds properly for services you would have to do something, and perhaps the something was to walk away and start again. You often have do that in jobs because staying to fight your corner is so time consuming and takes up so much energy.

A quick look at accounts filed and they are living hand to mouth, and running at a loss.
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.u...teredCharityNumber=1156400&SubsidiaryNumber=0
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends00/0001156400_AC_20190331_E_C.PDF

I would be worried because there are only three Trustees.
 
attheponies said:
It's also interesting that both sides claim to have reported the other to the Charity Commissioners!
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From what I read though, I don't think the trustees have actually claimed to have reported Marte - they just repeatedly mentioned waiting for the outcome from the Charity Comissioners and we all assumed they had reported Marte. That's why people were getting so confused about what was going on, and lots of people in the comments were asking whether that meant Marte had been reported/ had been doing something wrong. But maybe it's just that she has reported them and that is what they are waiting for? I might be wrong btw, I'm just musing!

Either way, the whole thing is extremely worrying and a very sad situation for a charity that has done a huge amount of good :(
 
Anything that could damage their reputation has to be reported. So speculation such as on this thread alone could be damaging to their reputation & therefore may need to be reported.

If anyone makes a serious complaint or threatens legal action that too would need to be reported. People nowadays often threaten legal action or going to the press to scare people into doing what they want.

Loss of a key members of staff who could not be replaced easily could harm the charities work.

If you consistently fail to send in your Annual reports & accounts on time thst can also get you in trouble.

The Charity commission takes a dim view of seeing negative coverage in the press before they have been informed there is a potential problem.

Being registered with CC in the UK is a massive benefit as you can then benefit from gift aid from UK tax payers.

ester said:
I mean rep orting to the charity commission is not a small deal, I think that has to be a 'serious incident'

A serious incident is an adverse event, whether actual or alleged, which results in or risks significant:


  • harm to your charity’s beneficiaries, staff, volunteers or others who come into contact with your charity through its work (who are collectively referred to throughout this guidance as people who come into contact with your charity through its work)
  • loss of your charity’s money or assets
  • damage to your charity’s property
  • harm to your charity’s work or reputation

For the purposes of this guidance, “significant” means significant in the context of your charity, taking account of its staff, operations, finances and/or reputation.

But I think it really depends on the context given the location.
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honetpot said:
Well I read the FB post and it all made sense to me. If you thought a charities Trustees were not complying with charity law, and or not distributing funds properly for services you would have to do something, and perhaps the something was to walk away and start again. You often have do that in jobs because staying to fight your corner is so time consuming and takes up so much energy.

A quick look at accounts filed and they are living hand to mouth, and running at a loss.
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.u...teredCharityNumber=1156400&SubsidiaryNumber=0
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends00/0001156400_AC_20190331_E_C.PDF

I would be worried because there are only three Trustees.
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the 2019 accounts show a prior year adjustment of £16731 was needed to closing bank/CIH for 2018, the other entry being to donations.
There was a change of accountant for the 2019 accounts.

The earlier years accounts were submitted late.

It is currently as clear a mud to me.

I am not sure who is taking legal action or if that is simply a guise to avoid giving any more info. If there are to be 2 charities then I am also not sure how either PFK or PFK2 expect donations to support 2 charities.
 
Charity governance/compliance is quite a skill. Many charities get caught out as trustees/staff have not adequate experience or training on this topic. Trustees should have an induction when start their roles so they understand their responsibilities & to make sure they receive adequate training in order to fulfil these responsibilities.

Conflict between staff & trustees is not uncommon in charities.



ester said:
does the 'legal action' not just refer to the charity commission referral?
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If Marte was doing something wrong, she appears to be an employee of the charity, a foreign national not working in the UK, I have no idea why anyone would think of reporting her to the CC, it just makes them look ineffective. I would assume they would be covered by the local law and employment laws.
The CC provide plenty of information for Trustees online, and there is an excellant website that provides information for not for profit organisations.
https://www.resourcecentre.org.uk/information/legal-structures-for-community-and-voluntary-groups/
Even the smallest club tends to have more than three commitee members, and running one outside the UK would complicate things. Looking at the amount of people listed as employees, you would think they would have a local accountant/ treasurer that would handle the day to day accounts and handle payments. Most of the donations will probabely be done online, thats their main income, which will be attached to a bank account, so someone is making the payments.

TBH I get really cross, because I have been involved in several charities and clubs, and we go to great lengths to make sure the books balance, and everything is done properly, no matter how small the amount spent, there is a paper trail.
I have donated before, but until there is some proper chain of command, with named individuals given roles and answer questions, not on FB but by email, I can not support them.
 
myheartinahoofbeat said:
Have there been any updates from PFK? I see their Facebook is still very active.
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I haven't seen any updates about what happened with Marte. But I have to say I think their Facebook is being more efficiently run - there have been introductions to the staff and better follow ups on foster horses. They are also taking in foster horses again, which I know they stopped for a bit due to financial reasons, so I'm assuming they are in reasonable financial health? I did pause my donation but I've been wondering if I should start it up again...
 
Yes, I thought the Facebook updates were a lot better, although obviously looking after the horses is more important. People will be more inclined to donate if they can see what PFK are actually doing on a daily basis. I'm thinking about donating again too.
 
myheartinahoofbeat said:
Yes, I thought the Facebook updates were a lot better, although obviously looking after the horses is more important. People will be more inclined to donate if they can see what PFK are actually doing on a daily basis. I'm thinking about donating again too.
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Was there ever a reason to stop donating?
 
Amymay said:
Was there ever a reason to stop donating?
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I don't know about mheartinahoofbeat but I stopped donating at the point when accusations seemed to be flying all over the place. I just felt very uncomfortable with the whole situation. But now that things have settled and they seem to be doing a very good job keeping things running, I would feel happy donating again.
 
fiwen30 said:
If anyone is interested in keeping up with Marte & Sherif, there’s a FB page named ‘Karam Kareem’, which had formally been the PFK ‘back-up’ page, that she has been posting to.
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Yes plenty of updates from Marte here - was originally the PFK2 page
 
Can anybody paraphrase what the statement from marte was? The link has expired

The updates coming from the Facebook page have fully resumed and all looks to be well but donations are lower than they were which is sad
 
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