irishdraft
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Horrible & sickening, I would be so happy to see a wild hare,barn owl or kestrel in the countryside, we have so little wild life in this country yet certain people are just set on destroying it 
What’s this about?!! Awful
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Rowreach
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Yup, around here they just rock up and out come the guns and hounds, or lurcher things, depending on what their target of the day is, and nobody can do a damn thing about it. We have loads of fox and brown hare here, and nothing really that a fox would cause economic damage to and plenty of grass for the hares, it's just about annihilating things for fun and money. Challenging them would just mean trouble.
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Chickens, however equally deserving of respect, are not under threat of disappearing from the ecosystem.
cauda equina
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Where are the sabs when you need them?
magicmoments
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And that's so frightening, that nobody dare do anything. Totally understandable, but that certainly shouldn't stop the police.
poiuytrewq
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Myself and dogs got caught up with a big gang of coursers.
We did call the police and they were actually really good. They didn’t catch anyone as it was all such a panic at the time I didn’t think to get registrations etc (fake anyway?) I just needed to get my little dogs back at the time.
It’s big sport round us
poiuytrewq
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Scared of them I'd imagine! I'd not be confronting armed men in the middle of no where! The hunt being around is a very public thing, as in there would be no witnesses
Parrotperson
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blimey Charlie. That's awful!
This is a bigger problem that I knew about. It's a very sad sort of world sometimes.
Smitty
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Ok, I'm being naive, or maybe I'm not. Why are these people taking the trouble to cross the water? Are the Gardai more problematic than our police, as surely there are better wildlife opportunities in Ireland, or do they come over for a captive gambling audience and an easy time with police?
In any case, they are repulsive and I wish they would limit their bloodsports to prize fighting in car parks. I don't care if they kill each other. Let them get on with it.
In any case, they are repulsive and I wish they would limit their bloodsports to prize fighting in car parks. I don't care if they kill each other. Let them get on with it.
ElectricChampagne
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Unfortunately the Gardai turn a blind eye to this. So they get away with it here. Plenty of times a neighbour of mine has woken up to lamping going on in his fields and livestock let out. Gates left open. Gardai called and they won't tackle them because 'it's their culture boss.'
Smitty
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I thought the Gardai were tougher than our police
ElectricChampagne
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Don't get me started on our judicial system. Gardai do a brilliant job in fairness but when a judge hands down the 98th conviction with a full suspended sentence to the same person why bother even going after them anymore?
blitznbobs
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Hares are game in the uk and can be controlled legally… and eaten.. the birds of prey less so
Parrotperson
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yes but you can only shoot them on your own land to control them can't you? You can't hunt them as such.
blitznbobs
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Umm it’s grey… you can shoot them as part of a pest control business on behalf of the land owner..
Don’t get me wrong, I think the guy is probably a txxt but it always puts my heckles up a bit when people say game is unconscionable but farmed meat isn’t … and hare is perfectly edible.
Rowreach
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Lots of harrier packs still hunting in NI and Ireland.
Rowreach
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Yep "they've always done it, so ..."
Titchy Pony
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But that's the point, isn't it? It's not so much about whether the display is objectively horrifying (Can horror be objective seen as it's an emotion?), it's about the very clear message being given.
Twenty prepackaged chickens could be seen as a gift, food for the needy (Though I don't recommend eating food of unknown origin found outside, no matter how well packaged...)
Twenty dead hares, deliberately laid out with blood spread around, is clearly a threat of harm.
The same way that a letter can bring good news or put you in fear for your life, it is the message and intent that matters way more that the means of conveying it. The message could have been made out of flowers and cuddly toys, if it carried the intent to harm, it would have been just as horrifying. Though in this case they have found a very effective way of conveying that they have both the intent and means to do harm if they wish to. I hope the police take it very seriously.
ElectricChampagne
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Hunting live animals with dogs isn't totally banned here, unless the animal is a protected species.
Lamping rabbits with lurchers is legal, but lamping or hunting hare is not. Foxhunting with dogs is still permitted by law. Hunting deer with dogs isn't permitted.
Plenty of foxhunting happens here
Goldenstar
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Illegal coursing and such like linked to gambling run by organised crime .
It’s disgusting police should protecting these communities who pay taxes and are deserving of protection.
It’s disgusting police should protecting these communities who pay taxes and are deserving of protection.
ester
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Our police are regularly confiscating dogs and trucks, def pro active about it.
Rowreach
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Yeah I know, I live here.
poiuytrewq
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I *think the police round our way are trying. They were here pretty fast but sadly with the info I was able to give couldn’t do much. They have a dedicated rural crime officer who told us to try and get photos or reg numbers and call him directly straight away.
I felt like it was taken seriously, more than I’d expected.
Clodagh
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They do as well as they can tackling it, it’s the tip of a serious organised crime network.
They should make the dear fellas go back and live in their ornate mansions in Ireland rather than letting them travel around the UK in their nicked caravans and luxury 4x4’s terrorising people.
Sorry all Irish people on here.
rextherobber
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Also, it's presumably not difficult to track when and where a hunt will be going, the hound lorry leaving, lots of horse lorries etc on the road, whereas with this, it's dark, no big lorries, how on earth would anyone know?
Rowreach
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All the 4x4s parked up along the verges round here, with the dog box trailers on the back, tends to give it away.
Clodagh
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They just drive on the fields here. I’m back in Essex for a few days and there’s concrete blocks and deep sided ditches everywhere.