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Have looked at previous threads but getting all sorts of mixed responses
So thought I'd put pics on
And hope someone can tell me
On my yearling foal

Hope you can help

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My youngster had them both last summer and this, he only had one each side but very similar. The vet was stumped - said not bot fly, not teeth, had no idea. They just spontaneously cleared up. This year the vet said maybe it was where he was chewing on something. He had them for months and it became a real worry.
 
She is covered in (sp) burrs as well those sticky bobbly things in her mane?
I hope it's not not flys I wormed her with a very strong wormer 15 wks ago as one of mine had GS and we worried it was a impact ion from worms (I wish) it wasn't and so she is 3 wks overdue for a wormer so this will be done immediately as of tomorrow!
 
I think they are something to do with Buttercups too.

I have a mare that gets these when there are alot of buttercups in the field, the others dont eat them but this one is quite greedy, they disappear quite quickly though.
 
Hi! My filly had these as a yearling too, vet said it was basically a coldsore. Ill see if i can find some pics

ETA

From May 2010

'Well Magic came in this afternoon and whilst I was brushing her she yawned in my face and I spotted these....

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And here

Now vet has seen them he and another vet are sure they are actually from a form of Herpes virus, so basically coldsores. Youngsters are more susceptible to them due to lower immune system, small scratch and there you go! You can use human coldsore cream Zovirax or just bonjela on them to help clear them up, they will take a while to clear up and like human coldsores, may come back again but should clear up as she gets older. Any problems phone the vet. So, Im off to buy some Bonjela!!






They still arent bothering her so have left them alone. Today I spoke to the Vet who said he doesnt think they are Bot Larval sores as they are now so rare, BUT if she hasnt been wormed with an Ivermectin wormer there is a chance they could be.
I am to worm her again in 14 weeks with an Ivermectin wormer, if they havent cleared up I shall be getting the vet out to her.

Oh am emailing him the pics I have taken.... when I first saw them 21st may then 25th. Ill take another one today for more comparison(sp?)


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25th
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And today 27th.
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Hope that helps a little, any doubt speak to your vet

I will add that she was wormed before these sores appeared and the first thought was bots but it was the wrong time of year?! I didnt put any cream or bonjela on them and they cleared up by themselves. she has also never had them again.
 
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my mare gets one of these all during the summer due to buttercups , we do not have bots up here so we know that they are caused by the buttercups, never notice more than one tho.
hope you get it cleared up x
 
Could be juvenile warts, if so they just go by the time he/she is two. If they are them then they are nothing to worry about.
 
They're definitely not warts, HIGHLY unlikely they are due to bot fly larvae (these DO spend some time in the mouth but are then swallowed and live in the stomach and gut), and they don't look like the allergic reactions to buttercups I have seen.

There is only one thing these look exactly like - and that is Orf - also known as contagious pustular dermatitis. It is a virus that mainly attacks sheep and goats, is highly contagious, and has been reported in dozens of other species including man (and it itches like bloody hell - says she who has had it!!) I have seen several horses with it - usually grazing land on which there are a lot of thistles (grazing close to thistles causes tiny - almost invisible scratches that permit easy entry to the virus) - and also usually (but not always) on land that has carried sheep in the previous year or two. The virus will stay in buildings for years!

Any off the shelf virus cream like Zovirax will help dry them up - as will tincture of iodine, or the good old terramycin spray! They'd go on their own usually, although there is always the risk of a secondary infection (which is why I'd use terramycin spray.) But wash your hands thoroughly after handling the horse - if you get infected you'll want to scratch yourself to bits!!

ETA - and if your horse is stabled, be warned that the virus will be left on woodwork and infect horses in the future. Creosote or similar is advisable - and a rest!
 
It does look very like orf. Not common in horses but not unheard of. They could also be a herpes virus (cold sores). Only real way to tell is getting a scraping of them.

However both have the same treatment so I'd try Zorvirax on them. Easily bought off the shelf at any supermarkets. Not particularly cheap (about £8 for a tiny bottle) but it won't do any harm and needs no vet call out (again). If they don't start to reduce within a few days (or become infected), call the vet out
 
Look like baby warts to me, and the open one one thats been rubbed out. If they are, they may get a lot worse, then better, as their immunity kick in, and kicks them out!!
 
BOT FLY ULCERS! WORM HIM ASAP. My horsey had them, and they can be real nasty. When the horse licks them, the larvae warm up and hatch and burrow into the skin.
Worm straight away and should be fine :)
 
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