What breed for eventing

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I am looking for a new horse at the moment for eventing and im torn between an irish sport horse and a belgian warmblood, both are young and ideally i would like to take them to * level. Which breed do you prefer for eventing (doesnt have to be any of these) or think would make the better event horse?
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how much tb blood do they have?

i would want a minimum of 3/4 direct tb blood (e.g. not a warmblood with tb lines 6 generations back!).
 
The event yard I used to work on (a long time ago!!) used to swear by tb's and irish, they said although a warmblood will excell in the dressage and possibly show jumping phase out xc a tb will get you out of trouble versus a warmblood that you have to get out of trouble!!!!
 
A good dollop of tb, with a nice bit of irish sense and 5th pony leg would be my choice - ISH every time if I were looking for an eventer!!
 
Native x tb seem to be talented but sane with the ability to sort themselves out sometimes. but they can get the naughty stubborness of the native XD NF X TB can be amazing and welshD X TB have soo much power and presence
 
these days they are moving away from the heavier set "irish" types and moving more towards finer types with a lot of TB in.

At the BEF recently, the heavier irish sports horse types werent doing so well in the eventing sections and the WBx and TB finer types were getting better marks.
One comment I heard from a judge was that if you go to a 3 *** event you will see how the horses are finer built with less ID in them these days.
 
guido16 said:
these days they are moving away from the heavier set "irish" types and moving more towards finer types with a lot of TB in.

At the BEF recently, the heavier irish sports horse types werent doing so well in the eventing sections and the WBx and TB finer types were getting better marks.
One comment I heard from a judge was that if you go to a 3 *** event you will see how the horses are finer built with less ID in them these days.
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This will be for speed, in order not to get time penalities etc. but ISH can have a fair amount of TB blood in them therefore make a perfect event type, a warmblood x tb would also be good, but full up warmblood's rarely have the mind for XC.
 
Thanks guys, i know the Irish one has a lot of TB lines but i will have a check on the WB, he has Darco lines is that TB or WB? Sorry i have no idea about these things. The WB is fine built but you are right they need to be clever enough to get you out of trouble and fast enough to make the time!
 
What utter horlicks about the warmbloods not thinking quickly enough! What do you think ISH are? they are warmbloods.
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What do they all have in common? They are warmbloods. I have ridden a real mixture of horses and it all comes down to the brain. I currently have a Danish Warmblood he is a real sweetie and brave. My last horse looked like pure Tb and was great with an extra leg yet was part Hannovarian. The carefullest horse I know is pure TB!

I loathe people making assumptions about breeds.
Personally go for the horse you get on best with and who will help you out. You can choose a sharp thinking horse it does not mean it will help you out!
 
I have an eventer belgian warmblood. He is 19 now and retired from the competitive life, but he had a fantastic record, especially in the XC phase. He does have considerable amounts of TB and Hanno in him so perhaps the TB blood gives him the stamina.

He can be an opinionated sod but always tries his heart out. I don't think there is any reason why a warmblood should be less successful than an ISH, it depends on the horse and if anything eventing these days is based heavily on the dressage, so a nice moving WB could do very well.
 
Personally, for eventing to the level you're looking at i'd want a good chunk of TB in there too, 3/4 bred preferably. TBxID woult be great, i like TBxTrakehner's too. I evented a 3/4 TB 1/4 Connemara for a while when i was younger and she was absolutley fantastic, but only unaffiliated and up to (what was then) pre-novice level. I honestly think she could have gone further though, it was me that couldn't at the time. My current project is 3/4 TB 1/4 Appaloosa. She has a cracking loose jump but time will tell how she does under saddle and XC...
 
guido16 said:
these days they are moving away from the heavier set "irish" types and moving more towards finer types with a lot of TB in.

At the BEF recently, the heavier irish sports horse types werent doing so well in the eventing sections and the WBx and TB finer types were getting better marks.
One comment I heard from a judge was that if you go to a 3 *** event you will see how the horses are finer built with less ID in them these days.
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But that depends of the TB in the ID, some ID have a lot of TB blood so are finer, not all ID's are fat old cobs!

We have a three yr old ID stallion and he looks like an event horse just as he is. Take a look:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/picture.php?albumid=709&pictureid=4180
 
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guido16 said:
these days they are moving away from the heavier set "irish" types and moving more towards finer types with a lot of TB in.

At the BEF recently, the heavier irish sports horse types werent doing so well in the eventing sections and the WBx and TB finer types were getting better marks.
One comment I heard from a judge was that if you go to a 3 *** event you will see how the horses are finer built with less ID in them these days.
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Very true! You dont see many middleweight ISH's now at top level eventing. Are there many ISH's at Burghley?
 
Simsar said:
But that depends of the TB in the ID, some ID have a lot of TB blood so are finer, not all ID's are fat old cobs!

We have a three yr old ID stallion and he looks like an event horse just as he is.
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You dont have to tell me. I`m a ID fan born and bred. I was just passing on the comments I heard and obviously it shows what the latest "trends" are!

Its only the old fashioned ID that is properly heavy set. (IMO)
 
guido16 said:
You dont have to tell me. I`m a ID fan born and bred. I was just passing on the comments I heard and obviously it shows what the latest "trends" are!

Its only the old fashioned ID that is properly heavy set. (IMO)
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So you have just reiterated what I said then picked it apart WTF! I wasn't bitching just answered the question!
 
LEC a cracking point thankyou and with them both being so young you would have no idea who which would make the better eventer. I guess I was just wondering if anyone had a preferance on breeds for eventing. Its tough i get on well with both and they are both very different but i really like both.
Haha i could open the mare vs gelding chat again but i wont!
WB for dressage a good call also as the WB paces are much nicer in this particular case!
 
Realistically - at 1* you really don't need to have the speed/stamina as at a 4* so really think either would do the job happily. I have a personal preference for the ID x TB and tend to stick to that as one trait they do all seem to share is a fairly hefty sense of self preservation!. As you have a choice, I would pick the one who shows to be the boldest going across country..
 
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