What causes bitchiness on yards?

Agree with everything here, it is mostly jealousy. I have had loads of it over the years, people used to sneer 'got another rossette today' to me when they saw me drive back onto the yard after a show, as me and Murph never came home empty handed. Murph is just a 15hh Arab x ID so never good enough in their eyes as they all had warmbloods and they hated the fact that we often beat them as I worked really hard at my schooling and Murph was incredibly sound. I've never spent more than 2k on a horse and been very lucky to find nice ones, but some people just cannot be happy for you. Mind you same goes for horsey jobs, I've just been promoted to second man (woman) and there are a large number that have said they wouldn't want to work under me as they have no respect for me as I am not part of their bitchy clique (that includes lads) and have not been there as long as they have. The fact I was going to leave and did not ask for promotion seems totally irrelevant to them.
 
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I'm sorry, but I'm not prepared to converse with you until I am assured of the pedigree of all your horses?
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*The_Stropster runs for cover and whispers*

I have a Irish TB (unknown breeding) and a............
Saddlebred x Arab x TB
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Joking - Ok, well I've been on quite a few different yards and I have to say that each has had it's own bitchy element to it, but this varies enormously......

Large yard 40+ horses I found non bitchy whilst you stayed out of smaller groups that form. ONce wrapped up in THOSE there's no escaping the back stabbing and false smiles. The bragging about who's got the flashiest horse *yawm* or who said what about who
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I'm on a tiny yard now consisting of happy hackers (everyone in their 40's/50's/60's and there is no real bitching. Just a bit of "oh **** does annoy me when she doesn't sweep up thoroughly outside her stable!"
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SHOCK HORROR!
 
Thing is with the horse world, there are lots of differing schools of thought on how horses should be kept and worked and many of these conflict quite directly with each other. That, in itself, is problem one.

The second is that whether we like it or not, all equestrian sports are expensive and money driven. You can do reasonably well upto a certain level by having deep pockets to throw at expensive horses. Others have to work their asses off producing a horse from scratch. Problem two!

Also most yards are primarily women and like it or not, women ARE bitchy. Most of us like nice things too. Some people have money to throw at beautiful horses, expensive tack, designer riding clothes, top trainers, brand new rugs and the lists go on and on. You can spend fortunes on this sport and its all very visible. Its hard not to be somewhat envious of your neighbour whos bought yet ANOTHER spangly new rug and who's horse looks pristine and tidy while you're juggling to get your stable rugs washed enough to avoid the inevitable poo stains.

I think you get bitchyness on most yards regardless of the ages of the people there. People just cant help themselves
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Agree with Tierra - everybody has their own way in looking after horses, its VERY opinionated so nastiness will always be around. And yes, it IS expensive so jealousy IS always going to happen.

I am very lucky in that my horses are kept at home so dont have to deal with a yard but I compete regularily and can see its often bitchy there so cant imagine how bad itd be at a yard!
 
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Funny how I never really appreciated my parents having their own land as a kid - I'm quickly realising how many nutters have horses!

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Scary, isn't it! We recon on having at least 1 yard nutter at any time. As soon as one leaves, we seem to get another one in their place. They're not always bitchy, but the current one is particularly unpleasant.
I agree though, jealousy is a big issue as is thinking your way is right and everyone should conform.
 
Horse people are just bitchy.
Maybe its because its quite a money orientated sport - so it brings out the jealous/envious side of people. Perhaps because someone always has an opinion on what you do/how you ride.
And more often than not because its attracts women and women are bitchy.
 
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In my experience it's people who just can't be happy for other people! They have to find fault and criticise all the time! Poor people, I feel sorry for them!

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Have to agree with Galaxy23 here, I find that I get bitched about because I try to better myself and my horse by having lessons and competing as much as I can. Most of the people at my yard are happy hackers or have a horse and dont even ride.......

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ditto. That's exactly the problem I have. And, the worst culprit is a man, who told me that I "stop him doing what he wants to with his horse" Well in that case I stop him from doing nothing because he has only ridden it 3 times in two years.
 
I think every yard has had some bitchiness at some point, I'm sure some people on our yard do not go up to see their horses but go for a gossip and a moan.

I keep myself to myself and don't get me wrong I love having a chat with the other liveries but when the bitchiness starts I keep my mouth shut, a simple comment can turn in to something so very different. So I listen to all the crap that floats round but never get drawn into it, life's too short and I rather save my energy for my horse.!
 
I think a lot of the time its people who don't have lives outside of horses, I have been on yards where if you buy a new horsebox, a week later person X has to go out and buy an even newer one, plus new set of tack to go with it! Some people are always looking for ways to get "above you" as their horse+items are the only things that they can control. Was once on a yard where people were actively horrible to my dad as he used to accompany me to the yard as I was only 15, they used to come round our section of the yard and offer everyone else a tea, walk straight past him and offer the person behind him. I left shortly after, I have absolutely no time for "playground bullies." Currently on a yard where there is never more than 4 people up at the same time as me and thats what I love!
 
That's very true actually - I have found that sometimes, people who have no life outside horses can be the worst culprits. Not all though!
 
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Well done to you, Arwen!
I could never bring myself to speak to cob owners or even part-bred owners (and as for natives, urgh). It's nice to know some of you with decent horses, and therefore knowledge, are willing to do missionary work with these low class owners.
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You do make me giggle, thanks I needed cheering up, more please



I'm sorry, but I'm not prepared to converse with you until I am assured of the pedigree of all your horses?


<font color="red"> </font>i was once at a yard with my cob!!, he was out in a mixed herd tbs and the lower class natives!!! well one day another livery pointed out my cob would only stay with the natives in the field and the tb where with themselves and the two did not mix, she then told me that it was due to breeding and thats why they did not mix, i then pointed out that this was true, as the tbs were so inbred they probably could not string two words together................................. she then huffed and walked off

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