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I am new to the forum although read a lot of the posts. I am planning to go to Royal Winsor Horse Show as an amateur. I have a 16hh irish sports horse who is much admired in local working hunter classes. However, he wouldn't be at the 1.15 level as yet for jumping. So I am looking for a suitable class. He is well schooled on the flat and he would show in a Pelham. I know there are several show people on here that will know far more than me about suitable classes.
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What is the reason for Royal Windsor? Is it your local show? The trouble with Windsor is it is rammed full of big qualifiers and you need to be a member of various societies which cost an arm and a leg to join - and that's before the entry fees for Windsor itself!

I'm sorry but I don't think your horse will stand up to the proper show horses. Not only do they need to be exceptionally well schooled so the ride judge can get on and have a pleasant ride you also have to strip tack for the conformation section and that is where your horse will sadly let you down amongst the big boys. As lovely as he is and he does everything you want him to do one thing he isn't is a show horse.
 
There is a ridden flat sport horse but I don’t know what society you have to be registered to for that but when the schedule comes out have a look. Then if you look at the photos from the last couple of years which you can access from Royal Windsor’s website you can get an idea of the type of horse in the class. The entry fees for Windsor are out of proportion to other shows but the prestige is worth it.
 
Elf On A Shelf said:
What is the reason for Royal Windsor? Is it your local show? The trouble with Windsor is it is rammed full of big qualifiers and you need to be a member of various societies which cost an arm and a leg to join - and that's before the entry fees for Windsor itself!

I'm sorry but I don't think your horse will stand up to the proper show horses. Not only do they need to be exceptionally well schooled so the ride judge can get on and have a pleasant ride you also have to strip tack for the conformation section and that is where your horse will sadly let you down amongst the big boys. As lovely as he is and he does everything you want him to do one thing he isn't is a show horse.
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Thankyou for your comments. I am not aiming to get placed as I know how high the standard will be at Windsor, Yes it is a local show to me. Schooling is not a problem he is working at Elementary level and competing at BE 100. It was a judge at a WH class that said we should go to higher level ( he won the championship) but I just think it will be a lovely day for us both!
 
humblepie said:
There is a ridden flat sport horse but I don’t know what society you have to be registered to for that but when the schedule comes out have a look. Then if you look at the photos from the last couple of years which you can access from Royal Windsor’s website you can get an idea of the type of horse in the class. The entry fees for Windsor are out of proportion to other shows but the prestige is worth it.
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Thank you I will have a look at that class. Sounds like that might be an ideal class.
 
anyalouise said:
Thankyou for your comments. I am not aiming to get placed as I know how high the standard will be at Windsor, Yes it is a local show to me. Schooling is not a problem he is working at Elementary level and competing at BE 100. It was a judge at a WH class that said we should go to higher level ( he won the championship) but I just think it will be a lovely day for us both!
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Will you still feel that way if you stand bottom of the line and get told that your horse isnt of the standard required? You might not get feedback, but a decent judge should say that to you. If thats not an issue then go ahead and enjoy your day :)
 
And get a photo in front of the river! We took our coloured a few years ago, the class was over 40 so most of the class were not placed, even those that felt they’d stand a chance! The photo hangs pride of place over the fireplace!
I’m there this year Friday-Sunday, if your class is on then and you need extra photographers let me know! I’ll be busy some of that time but not all :)
 
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Don’t be put off from going if your horse can cope with the atmosphere. First time I showed there I had chosen the wrong class as in he was really a hack and I’d thought he was a riding horse. He went sweetly for the judge and we had a good day
even though last or nearly last. It was only I think his fourth show but he’d raced evented and done dressage. A few years later he was pulled in top of 25 retrained racehorses. Got moved down after full judging but that’s another story not for public consumption ?.
 
I think you need to find a working class for him because it would seem to be his jumping performance that people are liking. Agree that he doesn't appear a Royal Windsor standard show horse from the photos. Personally I would have a good day out at Royal Windsor without him, have a good look at the classes you are considering and assess how you think he would fit. Then you can find some other shows "bigger" than you have thus far been competing at but not RW and give those a bash. There is always next year for RW if you are still keen after that. At 16hh he is going to look small in the RW classes also. It is easy to think you have a "good looking" smart, appealing sort of horse that can perform but that doesn't make it a show horse. A successful show horse must match the established type, quality and size otherwise you may as well stay at home.
 
YorkshireLady said:
what about the search for a star series? I Think its now Riding club horse as a class....and that is a good step up before you try county workers. County Novice workers is lower by the way.....height wise.
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Good idea as can get really good feed back from the judges. There is one at Bury Farm this year.
 
I worry there's a huge jump between a local RC and Royal Windsor. I suppose it depends if you can just see it as a day out and not be disheartened. He looks like a lovely horse but he's just not got the conformation to be competitive at the likes of Royal Windsor.
I think I'd go to Royal Windsor as a spectator and then have a look around for some other bigger shows than you've currently being competing at.
But if it's just a dream to go and compete at that particular show, go for it!
 
OP, Royal Windsor is one of my local shows. If you want to take him, then do and enjoy your day out but keep a stiff backbone as the levels there are pretty high. Somebody has to win and equally someone has to prop up the bottom of the line.
Go with no expectations at all except to do your best. Your horse is a nice sort but not imho top of the line material.
Also, remember that if its wet, you WILL get muddy, very muddy, you might even get towed in and out, the show might even have cancelled days, as has happened before.

I enter something each year, sometimes I don't bother to take them once I've checked the catalogue when the show opens on Weds (or got sneaky messages on the Tues night) or just left them at home as they havent come on as much as I'd hoped when I did the entries 2 months before. It's a gamble I take, even with county level Fuzzies.

Hope you enjoy yourself whatever you decide to do :)
 
I don't know if this might be useful but I went to a clinic organised by The Showing Register on Sunday. They are doing lots of them all round the country with really experienced judges. Mine has judges at HOYS and other prestigious shows and they will give you a very honest appraisal of your horse and what classes would suit him best. It may be a bit basic for you if you are already out showing but the other horses had all been out last year and they seemed to find it very useful. They have a website with loads of info. Good luck and if you do decide to go to the Windsor, just have a good time and enjoy the occasion.
 
Has the camera done the horse no favours in the stood up picture. He is a funny old shape in that shot.

If you do go to Windsor, allow yourself plenty of time to walk to the rings. It is a good distance from lorry park to the show ground.
 
oldie48 said:
I don't know if this might be useful but I went to a clinic organised by The Showing Register on Sunday. They are doing lots of them all round the country with really experienced judges. Mine has judges at HOYS and other prestigious shows and they will give you a very honest appraisal of your horse and what classes would suit him best. It may be a bit basic for you if you are already out showing but the other horses had all been out last year and they seemed to find it very useful. They have a website with loads of info. Good luck and if you do decide to go to the Windsor, just have a good time and enjoy the occasion.
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I would do this my friends daughter is an amateur and does all the big county shows against all the producers and pro's, and she does very well she qualified for Hoys and got placed last year so it can be done, good luck.
 
rara007 said:
And get a photo in front of the river! We took our coloured a few years ago, the class was over 40 so most of the class were not placed, even those that felt they’d stand a chance! The photo hangs pride of place over the fireplace!
I’m there this year Friday-Sunday, if your class is on then and you need extra photographers let me know! I’ll be busy some of that time but not all :)
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Thank you yes definatley would have to photos!
 
oldie48 said:
I don't know if this might be useful but I went to a clinic organised by The Showing Register on Sunday. They are doing lots of them all round the country with really experienced judges. Mine has judges at HOYS and other prestigious shows and they will give you a very honest appraisal of your horse and what classes would suit him best. It may be a bit basic for you if you are already out showing but the other horses had all been out last year and they seemed to find it very useful. They have a website with loads of info. Good luck and if you do decide to go to the Windsor, just have a good time and enjoy the occasion.[/

Thank you I will have a look.
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AdorableAlice said:
Has the camera done the horse no favours in the stood up picture. He is a funny old shape in that shot.

If you do go to Windsor, allow yourself plenty of time to walk to the rings. It is a good distance from lorry park to the show ground.
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Yes I will try to get some more pictures, He has been off work so he is carrying too much weight and he wasn't square.
The dressage one was a few years ago so he has changed since then.
 
He looks a nice sort, but I agree he's not a top class show horse. I'm all for going for a nice day out. I take one of my cobs out at county level and am fairly consistently towards the bottom of the line. I get told his movement is too extravagant for a cob. He's also a bit too on the lean side for their taste and his bottom isn't round enough. I know all those things so I'm not offended when we lose and we just have a nice day out. A placing is a bonus. The photos are always lovely.

If they do a novice class, that's what I'd go for. He doesn't really look like a hunter to me, but maybe you could do the novice LW hunter. I'd lean more towards a hunter than a riding horse, personally
I don't recall Windsor doing a novice WH, but I may be wrong :)
 
DressageCob said:
He looks a nice sort, but I agree he's not a top class show horse. I'm all for going for a nice day out. I take one of my cobs out at county level and am fairly consistently towards the bottom of the line. I get told his movement is too extravagant for a cob. He's also a bit too on the lean side for their taste and his bottom isn't round enough. I know all those things so I'm not offended when we lose and we just have a nice day out. A placing is a bonus. The photos are always lovely.

If they do a novice class, that's what I'd go for. He doesn't really look like a hunter to me, but maybe you could do the novice LW hunter. I'd lean more towards a hunter than a riding horse, personally
I don't recall Windsor doing a novice WH, but I may be wrong :)
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No i don't think they do a novice WH will check though. Its WH classes he excels in. Yes lots of people on the yard have been with different horses so its for a day out and the experience. I just wasn't to sure of which class.
 
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