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TT - please get a photo of your unusual grey. 
TT - please get a photo of your unusual grey.![]()
xgemmax - the skewbald is a brown tobiano (probably seal brown tobiano as he looks like he'd be quite dark if he wasn't clipped). There is more than one gene that causes white flecks in the coat. Sabino and Rabicano are possibilities for your chestnut, but she doesn't look like she has the Roan gene. Is the 'roaning' mainly on the flanks and do you have a better photo of her tail from behind?
ETA - Hoof Print's tobaino is also a seal brown tobiano and I also wonder if the buckskin is actually brown based too.
ljohnsonsj - the first horse is brown, not bay.Do you have a winter coat photo of the second bay? I can't quite tell if she's bay or brown from that photo.
She is all dark with just a star and light bits on her eyes and muzzle, almost like an exmoor ponyThanks Faracat!
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They're both brown.It's the brown muzzle (and round the eyes etc...) that really gives it away. I can see why you say it's like an Exmoor as it alters the pigment in the same areas, but pangare (that Exmoors and Haflingers have) makes the muzzle etc... even paler. Bay and Brown are related, the third colour caused by agouti is Wild Bay.
TT - the photos worked when I clicked on them. Very cute.Definitely a grey and it will be lovely to see how his colour develops as he greys out.
xgemmax - it's most likely related to the gene(s) causing the white markings, as if he had LP from his appy parent, you would expect him to varnish roan out (ie he would continue to get paler, like Lemonpolo's horse has - shown earlier in the thread). I had wondered if he had an obvious 'skunk tail' to indicate rabicano and I'm thinking that maybe it's sabino causing the flecks, but the summer coat should help.
RB - I don't see Dun. Dorsal stripes can be caused by countershading, so non dun horses can have them.![]()
Ooh thanks, would be nice if he got lighter, will have to wait and see what summer coat is likeHe is rising 5 so plenty of time yet I guess! Very interesting stuff, thankyou x
I don't think he'll get lighter as time goes by, but his summer coat should have more flecks (or the flecks are easier to see) than his winter one. One of my chestnuts has a sabino patch of white flecks on his elbow, you can hardly see it in the winter, but it's an obvious white spot in his summer coat.![]()




Ooh thanks, would be nice if he got lighter, will have to wait and see what summer coat is likeHe is rising 5 so plenty of time yet I guess! Very interesting stuff, thankyou x
I'd love an opinion on the colouring of my daughter's mare. She was advertised as iron grey, but is passported as grey roan (I'm pretty sure she's not grey roan though). She's dark grey with mainly black mane/tail (some silver streaks in it), flecks of brown in her coat especially her hind which is currently more bay than grey! In the 8 months or so we've owned her she has changed colour many times. She was very dark at the start of summer, went lighter and almost rose grey as time went on, then darker again over autumn/winter.
This mare looks a lot like my old filly, she was born flaming ginger chesnut, by 2 she was dark iorn grey dapple with blackening mane and tail almost black lower legs and a black dorsal stripe but she still had ginger steaks in her mane and tail and ginger freckles hidden in her body 9i always called her a secret ginger ninja). by 4 her body had lighten to a light grey dapple but her legs went darker her mane and tail were very dark iorn grey the dorsal stripe faded but in summer she still had little ginger bits showing through I always classed her as a dapple grey but was convinced her body might go almost white over time she must be around 7/8 now
This mare looks a lot like my old filly, she was born flaming ginger chesnut, by 2 she was dark iorn grey dapple with blackening mane and tail almost black lower legs and a black dorsal stripe but she still had ginger steaks in her mane and tail and ginger freckles hidden in her body 9i always called her a secret ginger ninja). by 4 her body had lighten to a light grey dapple but her legs went darker her mane and tail were very dark iorn grey the dorsal stripe faded but in summer she still had little ginger bits showing through I always classed her as a dapple grey but was convinced her body might go almost white over time she must be around 7/8 now
Our mare will be 6 this year. Really hoping she doesn't grey out too quickly as she is a filthy mud monster!