Phoebe+Sophie
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My mare is Exmoor cross Welsh Section C and Exmoors have pangare don't they? She does have very obvious black points and is very bright in the summer. Thanks
What colour is/are your horse/s?
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My mare is Exmoor cross Welsh Section C and Exmoors have pangare don't they? She does have very obvious black points and is very bright in the summer. Thanks
Meowy Catkin
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Black gelding clipped summer coat
Sorry for the overload!
This is the photo that made me think he's very dark seal brown as you can just see the brown on the muzzle and by the eye, it is very subtle.
And just so he's not left out my share horse. Fleabitten grey with chestnut flecks (although not so obvious in this pic as they tend to blend together in winter and just create an overall off white colour) but even at 19 he still has quite a dark mane and tail - his mane is a darker grey but the dark bits of his tail are chestnut. It's a little bit muddy in this photo but not far off its normal colour.
He was almost certainly born chestnut. My own grey is heterozygous for grey. She was born chestnut, quickly greyed out to pure white by 2 years of age and then started to develop fleabites. She doesn't have sooty, so never went through a dappled stage. I have read that homozygous greys are possibly more prone to melanomas, but I have not seen any research to back it up, so it could just be an old wives tale. A lot of very old grey horses do get fleabites, so it could be a time thing? Again I've not seen any proper research into this.
Meowy Catkin
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Pangare gives a much paler result on the areas where it restricts the pigment eg
I know that I'm just giving my best 'educated guess' from how the horse looks and that it's not the same as having the horse DNA tested, so I'm always always prepared to be wrong.
Feival
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Love all these, thank u all for joining in, SatsumaGirl seeing ur Connie x Cob makes me sure that's what Winnie is! She was born piebald, blue and white at rising 4, Grey with some flea bitten bits at rising 7. Will she get more flea bitten? They seem to just be on her bits that used to be colour.
Rachelashleigh
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I have a dun, dun and white, piebald and I'd say bright bay always thought bay had black points jack only had black mane and tail but bay legs and a blonde draylon under fluff.
Antw23uk
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16.2 of grey awesomeness
Hoof_Prints
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He looks darker when fully clipped, he has a more red brown colour if left unclipped or when he has his summer coat
Fully clipped late summer
Summer coat unclipped
I have an interesting colour photo of the buckskin, she goes orangey in the summer and her winter coat is paler sandy yellow. this photo is of various clip lines from different dates, doesn't show her sandy colour though
Madam Min
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A chesnut and a dark brown ( black in summer)
Rhodders
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Think I may have finally worked out the photo thing couldn't add it to my post though ��http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/T...462881957219_538965261_n.jpg.html?sort=3&o=30
Nope still can't do it
Nope still can't do it
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The_Dappled_One.
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Dapple grey
Hoof_Prints
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Think I may have finally worked out the photo thing couldn't add it to my post though ��http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/T...462881957219_538965261_n.jpg.html?sort=3&o=30
Nope still can't do it
that what you were trying to post?
s4sugar
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Rhodders
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Yes thank you
that what you were trying to post?
so brown, ginger, blond and bay, although he's wearing his pulling jacket 
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Meowy Catkin
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That's interesting as he looks brown in the clipped photo and bay in the summer one (ignoring the white markings).He looks darker when fully clipped, he has a more red brown colour if left unclipped or when he has his summer coat
Fully clipped late summer
Do you have an unclipped winter coat photo?
Hoof_Prints
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I'll try and find what I can, he has a big hairy coat and feathers (has some irish gypsy cob showing through!) so usually fully clipped most of the year, or at least feathers clipped. I'll have a search.. sure he had an abscess one winter so he wasn't clipped and I think I took a photo
only_me
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Faracat, is mine a bay and white? How do you tell?
And what what is the difference between a Sabino and tobanio?
Sorry for so many questions!
And what what is the difference between a Sabino and tobanio?
Sorry for so many questions!
keepitugly
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I have a dun and a bay.
CinnamonChristmasCookie
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Ignoring the resemblance to a toastrack (he was unrugged and unloved during a winter til I took him on full loan ), is he dark bay or brown/seal brown?
), is he dark bay or brown/seal brown?
Hoof_Prints
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Struggling with the winter coat, the best I have is a few weeks after a clip, he has a fair bit of feather on - note the gypsy mane trying to grow through! constant battle with it haha.
He was also rather fluffy here, this was around spring before he started moulting and I couldn't face another clip just yet
Here is is, freshly clipped november time 2013, ignore my position I was in pain after jumping with a twisted ankle !
Freshly clipped boxing day 2014 (same day as the previous first photo)
He does like to change his colours, he is now the darkish brown with red flecks as his summer coat starts to come through
He was also rather fluffy here, this was around spring before he started moulting and I couldn't face another clip just yet
Here is is, freshly clipped november time 2013, ignore my position I was in pain after jumping with a twisted ankle !
Freshly clipped boxing day 2014 (same day as the previous first photo)
He does like to change his colours, he is now the darkish brown with red flecks as his summer coat starts to come through
laura_nash
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My cob is a piebald
My daughters new little rescue pony is described as appaloosa on his passport, but that's clearly nonsense. I would say a brown roan? Happy to be corrected though. His coat is a mix of chestnut (quite metallic in some lights), brown and grey. I have no idea how he's bred! Any guesses very welcome (he's 11.2hh and about 12 years old).
My daughters new little rescue pony is described as appaloosa on his passport, but that's clearly nonsense. I would say a brown roan? Happy to be corrected though. His coat is a mix of chestnut (quite metallic in some lights), brown and grey. I have no idea how he's bred! Any guesses very welcome (he's 11.2hh and about 12 years old).
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Meowy Catkin
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From this photo, he looks to be a bay tobiano, but if in his winter coat he is dark with the brown muzzle, eye shadow, armpits, flanks etc... then he could be brown rather than bay. To see the base colour, you have to imagine the horse without the white markings. If the white was paint, what colour would the horse be if you washed it off?
Tobiano and Sabino are both genes that put white (or areas with no pigment) on the coat. They are known as pinto or coloured genes. A horse can have both, but they are not the only ones, there are other pinto/coloured genes eg frame overo as shown by s4sugar's horse.
So tobiano is the classic UK piebald or skewbald with white legs and white patches on the body that go over the topline, as if the horse has been standing in white paint and someone has also poured a bucket of white paint over the top of them. They can be minimal, so most of the horse is still the base colour, or with much more white but normally the ears and often the chest and the flanks are left pigmented.
Both of these horses are tobianos.
Sabino also puts white on a horse and can be minimal, right up to the horse being pretty much all white. So it can cause a small white sock and a small star, some white flecks in the coat, belly splashes, big white markings on the head and legs, loud 'roaning' (often called blagdon in the UK when the colour is on a cob) right up to the aforementioned 'white horse'. Sabino markings are jagged edged.
Feival
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Not the best pic, but its all I've got. What colour is the dude? He had a spotty bottom, white spots.
Kezzabell2
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Pic probably wont show, never do
but the closest horse is buckskin/dun (she goes very dark in the summer)
a bay and a skewbald
Meowy Catkin
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Ignoring the resemblance to a toastrack (he was unrugged and unloved during a winter til I took him on full loan
Brown and IMO dark enough to be called seal brown.
Struggling with the winter coat, the best I have is a few weeks after a clip, he has a fair bit of feather on - note the gypsy mane trying to grow through! constant battle with it haha.
He really looks brown rather than bay there.
So, so cute!
I looked at the photo and thought that he might be dark liver chestnut with snowflake 'appaloosa' markings and then I read that he's down as an appaloosa coloured in his passport, which is of course a breed, not a colour, but hey ho. 
Meowy Catkin
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TT - I can't really tell from that photo, but google 'horse birdcatcher spots' and see if that's a possibility.
K2 - the photo works when I click on it.
K2 - the photo works when I click on it.
Kezzabell2
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TT - I can't really tell from that photo, but google 'horse birdcatcher spots' and see if that's a possibility.
K2 - the photo works when I click on it.
cool thanks, I don't know why they never show up on the post though! sooo annoying that people have to click into it! Photobucket can be soooo slow!
only_me
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Ah, ok, thank you Faracat
Feival
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Not really. This is his full sister, the only difference was their faces.
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Yup def snowflake appy pony and I vote brown on hoof prints boy
Meowy Catkin
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TT - OK, she looks like she has snowflake marks on her hindquarters, so a spotty 'appaloosa' pattern. If the brother has also inherited LP and/or PATN (the two genes involved in spotty patterns) then his markings will be caused by them.