What colour would you say?

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I bought my first horse a month a go and love her to bits and we are getting on well :)

I would like to know what colour you lovely lot think she is, her passport says Bay, her online predigree (ex racehorse) says Chestnut and somewhere else says Liver Chestnut.
This is her -
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Although she does go a lovely mud brown (she just loves puddles) -
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Sorry if the sizing is bad, have done this post on my phone :S

Thanks :D
 
Wow, what a fab colour :D She's just like a bay without points, isn't she? No idea technically what she is, sorry, but she's unusual and awesome!
 
At first I thought bay; but she doesn't have black points and there are a few red hairs at the top of her tail in the first photo, so I think she could be chestnut. Not sure what type of chestnut though. She looks lovely and it will be interesting what she looks like in the summer, you might find she looks much more chestnut then.
 
s4sugar - I don't think so no :S I have a passport but she wasn't raced over here. She was bought over from Canada by the woman I bought her from :S
 
chestnut, possibly liver ;)

mine is down as liver but he has a lighter mane and tail and his liveriness depends on the time of year.

She looks lovely, front feet look rather long in the muddy pic though?
 
ester - her summer coat is coming through nicely so will post one when it has :). Yes I have the farrier coming out early next week :)
 
If her mane and tail are black I would suggest she is bay although has some-one has already said, she doesn't have black points.
 
Does she have Jockey Club papers or is the passport a generic one issued on import into Europe?

Chestnuts can have manes and tails so dark they appear black unless put next to truely black hair.
It is possible to get a bay without black points on the limbs but with wild bay you always see some paler shading below the knee. (unless masked by white of course!)
 
Do you have a photo that shows her legs without the mud?

ETA. Wild bays tend to have some black hair on the hocks and knees, so if the pasterns and fetlocks are covered by white socks, you should still see some black. Of course very high white leg markings would obscure this too.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to be nasty at all, but her hooves are awful in that photo (not uncommon in ex-racers who have been shod without a break from two years of age). Hopefully it's an old photo and they are much better now.
 
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OK, for some reason the first photo didn't show up the first time I looked at this thread. Nevermind it shows now.

Chestnut.

Bay horses are really black and a gene called agouti fades the body. It does not fade the points. She has chestnut legs, so she's chestnut. The darker mane and tail is a red herring. Chestnut can be pale orange, right through bright orange, liver chestnut to black chestnut. She has darker hairs in her mane and tail but that doesn't make her a black based horse. If she was silver dapple (only shows on black horses but causes them to sometimes be mistaken for chestnuts), for example, you would still see darker legs even though they would be faded by the silver gene.
 
Here's a wild bay that's for sale on AL.

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Can you see how this horse has a few black hairs on his fetlocks, knees and hocks? He also has black ear tips.

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Can you see how he differs from the OP's horse?
 
Chestnut - sometimes they can look bay but there are always give-aways, usually the lower legs. Sometimes they can be sooty on the legs too, but they will always be lighter/gingery above the hooves. I wouldn't say liver either, just normal chestnut with a dark mane and tail.
 
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