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tinkandlily

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A few weeks ago i turned my mares out as usual, then i went to open the entrance gate for my friend, next to my field, i turned back around and my mare was on the floor, at first i thought she was having a rest, but she didn't look right so i went to check. Normaly when i aproch her she gets straight up, but this time she didn't even open her eyes. I called for help, to help her back on her feet and it took 4 of us 20 mins to get her on her feet, by sheer force. Once she was up she was fine, like nothing had happened, i rang the vet but they just said as she was up, walking and eating, just for me to keep an eye on her.

People keep telling me it was colic, but she showed no signs whatsoever before she went down or after, and i literly turned my back for a second and she was down, a couple of my past horses have had coilc and they have never just gone down. I have been wondering if she got kicked and winded by my other horse, but i havent heard of that either. Anyone have any ideas?:confused:
 
It sounds like she could have had a fit or something like it. Im not a vet but thats what sprung to mind having had a dog who had diabetes and had a fit one day. Had to bring her round with a jaffa cake.
 
Is narcolepsy a possibility? I think I have heard of this in horses, but don't know much about it. Might be worth a bit of research????

T xx
 
Tennessee said:
Is narcolepsy a possibility? I think I have heard of this in horses, but don't know much about it. Might be worth a bit of research????

T xx
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I have thought of that, but i've had her 3 yrs and had no problems. If she does do it again though, i am going to ask the vet to look into it.
 
Is she a greedy pig who puts her head straight down when she goes out? Have you ever thought she might have had colic in the night, or got cast because her bed was a mess? Because you didn't see this start as you had your back turned, I'm trying to build a picture from more anecdotal evidence. My horse DOES have epilepsy, and it isn't unknown for a seizure to hit so rapidly that they just go straight down, but it is more common that they mess about for a minute or so first before hitting the deck. Don't panic, she might simply have tripped up, hit the deck and winded herself.
 
tinkandlily said:
I have thought of that, but i've had her 3 yrs and had no problems. If she does do it again though, i am going to ask the vet to look into it.
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I appreciate that its not happened in the three years you've had her, I just wondered if like some other conditions it can develop any time?? I wonder if she's ever done it when you're not there?? Good idea to ask the vet!!!

Just a thought xxxx
 
fatpiggy said:
Is she a greedy pig who puts her head straight down when she goes out? Have you ever thought she might have had colic in the night, or got cast because her bed was a mess? Because you didn't see this start as you had your back turned, I'm trying to build a picture from more anecdotal evidence. My horse DOES have epilepsy, and it isn't unknown for a seizure to hit so rapidly that they just go straight down, but it is more common that they mess about for a minute or so first before hitting the deck. Don't panic, she might simply have tripped up, hit the deck and winded herself.
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When she goes out, she always has a roll first, theres not much grass at the min so she dosen't dive right in. I don't think her bed was any messier than normal. If it is epilepsy will it happen again?
 
I would have thought she tripped and winded herself if she was fine again afterwards. If she didnt seem dazed or anything, I'd have thought it'd be unlikely to be a fit? Hmm. Scary though!
 
Tennessee said:
I appreciate that its not happened in the three years you've had her, I just wondered if like some other conditions it can develop any time?? I wonder if she's ever done it when you're not there?? Good idea to ask the vet!!!

Just a thought xxxx
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It could have, my field is not visible from the yard, so unless someone was going past, nobody can see her. I might swap to one closer, and then someone can always see her. Then i can see if she does it regularly.
 
No, equine seizures seem very different to human or dog ones. My girl would finish the seizure and continue eating her breakfast as though nothing had happened. I could be riding out on her less than an hour later. Interestingly, the type of seizure that we tend to think of, ie. drop like a stone and do all the twitching etc on the floor tend to be the ones that they sleep off after and seem very subdued for several hours. The OPs mare might have simply tweaked something during her roll and decided to stay put for a while until the effects wore off, like us with a cramp. A seizure can be a one-off event, or it can become a permanent fixture. Unfortunately it is a wait and see situation.
 
Was it a very warm day?
Just wondering if her blood pressure dropped, making her collapse.

What was her temp when you got her to her feet and what was her breathing like and her pulse?
 
guido16 said:
Was it a very warm day?
Just wondering if her blood pressure dropped, making her collapse.

What was her temp when you got her to her feet and what was her breathing like and her pulse?
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Her temp was up a fraction but her pulse was very quick when she was down, once she got up her pulse went down again. I think it was a sunny day but not that warm. But she did come in earlier the day before, so would have finished her hay earlier. I don't know wether this had any affect, i know when im hungry i feel lightheaded.
 
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