What do think would happen if you used these 2 gadgets together?

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A pair of draw reins and a daisy rein (goes from D rings to poll)?

As I understand, draw reins = keeping head down, daisy rein = head up.

I'll let you know what did happen after a few guesses
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Draw reins tuck the nose in, daisy rein fitted correctly should only act when the head goes unusaually low. Therefore they could, in theory, be used in total harmony.
Its not something I'd ever do, however.
 
Depends on the horse but I think going vertical would be a reasonable response. Suppose you'd get the honest few that would just suffer the pain and try to keep their head up and down and tucked in all at the same time.

Whoever put both on clearly needs strung up like they do to their horses.
 
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Draw reins tuck the nose in, daisy rein fitted correctly should only act when the head goes unusaually low. Therefore they could, in theory, be used in total harmony.
Its not something I'd ever do, however.

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Ditto this
 
JM07 and H's Mum are the closet.

He went forward when asked. He was then asked to to a very tight circle (nose to shoulder job) and he kind of flipped up/sideways and off his feet. Landed on the rider.

Poor lad got a severe beasting from his dressage trainer whose idea it was to wear his daisy rein. He is ALWAYS in his draw reins, daisy rein was a new addition.
 
Sheesh!!! What ever happened to learning to coordinate your hand and leg aids to educate and encourage the horse to work in a correct outline? I must be getting old!!!!
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Why bother to learn to work a horse properly when you can think up a stupid and harmful shortcut? Makes me very angry.
 
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A TRAINER suggested this?????
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People must learn to say no to stupid ideas even if they come from their trainers!

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Rider has only been riding a year, I doubt she knew better TBH. Unfortunately, she was also hatless
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but we've done that debate umpteen times on here
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Is the trainer qualified or accredited at all? If so, I think its worth making a complaint about them. Are the rider and horse relatively OK?
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[****] poor horse and rider, I too have in the past gone against my better judgement when trainer said so... I do hope she wont be using said person again
 
The trainer herself trains with David Hunt but I don't know if she is registered.

She has competed in Premier League, but not very successfully
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Agree with Flame_.

If you are a novice rider using a trainer (in particular a qualified/highly experienced one) it is too much to expect that the person will be able to judge the quality of the advice they are given.
 
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Is the trainer qualified or accredited at all? If so, I think its worth making a complaint about them. Are the rider and horse relatively OK?
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Sorry, missed your question
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. Rider is back to the hospital tomorrow (happened last week) so they can x-rayscan her. The swelling was too great to do much, so got sent home with pain killers. Looks like she has broken arm and ligament/tendon damage to the leg he landed on.

Pony? Well, he's used to being treated in such a way and although was looking a little cowed, has perked up a bit.
Breaks my heart to see him treated in such a way, he's a real sweetie. One of those that'd give his all for you.
 
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Out of interest, did they continue with this ingenius training method further to the horse flipping over on the rider?

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good question, poor horse and rider, its suprising what goes on at some of these so called proffessional yards, I seen a few eye openers myself and had to bite my tongue
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Out of interest, did they continue with this ingenius training method further to the horse flipping over on the rider?

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Yes, the trainer rode it the next day for it's beasting in the same kit
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