What do you make of this equine back end?

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Just in debate about the bump... lacking topline? or pelvic/sacroiliac/spinal problem?

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How old and what work load does it do?

Looks a lot like how my connies back end looked like when I first got him as a 5yo but he had a stifle issue and had been out of work for some months. Soon improved with a decent work routine.
 
Is he sound?

He looks quite built up round the front, so if he's sound and works willingly it could be that he's really not using himself at all and is just ploughing along on the forehand... He is just lacking any muscle there at all, hence the enormous bump. Why that is could could be for a variety of reasons.
 
Yes I know he's definitely weak, not done anything to build up any muscle but it does look prominent . Just turned 5 and a Connemara too
 
My TB has a similar bump! Never caused any problems - I've always been told it's just poor conformation
 
Not a pony I know much about but one I might be working with to help build his lack of topline and round his bum. He has not been schooled, just hacked and jumped out in the country.

Walks and trots up sound and even
 
Just thought I'd share photos of my boy the first week I had him for you to compare to.

Stifle problem was on his right hind, hence why he used to 'tripod' to keep balance. Box rest for 10 days then physiotherapy and raised trot poles (all under vet advice) before a second review 8 weeks later reveling the problem had righted itself. Now just has to be kept in good work to keep that back end in condition so he can support that side properly. No problems since.

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Just thought I'd share photos of my boy the first week I had him for you to compare to.

Stifle problem was on his right hind, hence why he used to 'tripod' to keep balance. Box rest for 10 days then physiotherapy and raised trot poles (all under vet advice) before a second review 8 weeks later reveling the problem had righted itself. Now just has to be kept in good work to keep that back end in condition so he can support that side properly. No problems since.

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Plenty of pictures on my profile of him to compare. :)

I have seen the pictures on your profile but can't see any that show a particular bump :) was the stifle problem caused by the conformation or was the bump just a result of lacking muscle on the bum?
 
Goose rump - also known as 'jumpers bump' as it was thought to be associated with great jumping ability - and as its a connie that will probably be true!
 
His mother was very much a traditional type of connie but his dad is slightly finer, more sports pony type build. He's defiantly more like his dad conformation wise.

The stifle problem was because of a kick he took to his side, then he was left out of work and his muscle deteriorated leaving him with the bump. :)
 
I love the Irish horses but the Connie ponies are just fab, I ride one at the moment who's been out of work for a while and he just is just fab! jumps like he has springs in his feet despite the fact he's getting on a bit.

I was sat googling 'jumper's/hunter's bump' and 'goose rump' and got a mix of answers from 'your horse will be crippled and in a hoist in 5minutes' to 'your horse will be an Olympic showjumper' ;) good old google! So thanks for the opinions they have been far more useful, the more info and experiences the better
 
Looks weak to me but don't know an awful lot about 'hunters bumps' but my cousin got a welsh d x trotter last summer and his back end had the same angle as your horse.. It made him look really short & odd. Almost as if you had got different parts of a pony and threw them together to make him he looked so strange. It's about 8 months on & he's really filling out into a little muscle machine!
 
I imagine it is just pronounced by lack of muscle then, my horses do have well rounded backsides so I'm not used to seeing one like this !
 
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I would say just weak and needs building up IF I hadn't seen the picture taken from behind. The pony is VERY unsymmetrical - the left hand side much bigger than the right.

I would be getting a good ACPAT physio to have a look - and as they need a vet's permission to work - probably a vet too.
 
Hope you dont mind me hijacking post a little... does anyone have experience of a similar thing in youngsters?

Ive got a 16/16.1hh 2yo and he has a very similar rump, hes also quite cow hocked but think that will come straight with muscle.

From looking around at shows ive noticed some of the other larger youngsters seem to have a similar rump end.

Im hoping he'll get a nice peachy bottom as he gets older and starts working - I think he just needs to learn to use his back end instead of loping around the field.

Does this sound about right in people's experience?
 
Hijack away haha, i'm learning!

To the poster above the last post (well it was before I types this anyway)

The pony isn't standing square so could the asymmetry be shown because the right hind is extended backwards? I will see if I have another picture of him from behind. I see what you mean but it doesn't strike me as obvious
 
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Looks quite different in this picture, when compared to the one I originally posted (posting again for comparison)

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and actually still not symmetrical.

I would still be wanting some input from a physio to help build up the area correctly if the pony were mine.

Lovely pony - worth the effort. I love connies!
 
I can't get a photo square right now but I will see if I can, yes lovely pony and with that little roman nose he's just far too cute :D
 
I've taken some measurements for you which may make you think a bit. From spine to point of hip in both photos - left and right.

1st photo left 20mm, right 160mm

2nd photo left 24mm, right 20mm left

Very unscientific and done with a tape measure on a computer screen - but I hope is reflective of my concern?
 
I've taken some measurements for you which may make you think a bit. From spine to point of hip in both photos - left and right.

1st photo left 20mm, right 160mm

2nd photo left 24mm, right 20mm left

Very unscientific and done with a tape measure on a computer screen - but I hope is reflective of my concern?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little confused :o

Particularly in the fact that there is a large difference between the measurements in the first photo with the left side being shorter than the right, however in the 2nd photo the measurements are similar yet the left side is actually longer in this measurement ? :)
 
I assume bedlam meant 16mm not 160mm :p

Ie there is the same 4mm difference in each leg on both pics. I'm not sure that's conclusive of anything however as camera angle/not stood up square could account for that and more.
 
I assume bedlam meant 16mm not 160mm :p

Ie there is the same 4mm difference in each leg on both pics. I'm not sure that's conclusive of anything however as camera angle/not stood up square could account for that and more.

Ah yes, brain isn't awake so logic isn't working yet! :o It's hard to tell with the pony not standing square . Either way, it's something I wouldn't have normally looked at so it's good to know.
 
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