PaddyMonty
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and has it created a happy 'Ridden' relationship?
What do you think about Parelli?
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Kate_13
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So I presume that you only ride in a halter and wave an orange stick
You are so happy with your new found enlightenment to Parelli that you go hacking or jumping bareback with just a halter?
You haven't bought a saddle, bridle, rugs or jods then?
You are so happy with your new found enlightenment to Parelli that you go hacking or jumping bareback with just a halter?
You haven't bought a saddle, bridle, rugs or jods then?
PaddyMonty
Well-Known Member
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and has it created a happy 'Ridden' relationship?
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This was a genuine question. I asked simply because in my experience the ridden relationship rarely happens so wondered if it worked for you?
and has it created a happy 'Ridden' relationship?
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This was a genuine question. I asked simply because in my experience the ridden relationship rarely happens so wondered if it worked for you?
spaniel
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Just wanted to say - even though Im not particularly a fan of Parelli how nice it is to see that opposing views can be aired without resorting to the slagging that some other threads have decended into in the past.
Very refreshing.
Just wanted to say - even though Im not particularly a fan of Parelli how nice it is to see that opposing views can be aired without resorting to the slagging that some other threads have decended into in the past.
Very refreshing.
laura77
New User
I cannot answer for Chris but for me the ridden relationship has changed dramatically.
The biggest change was in her confidence, before I was unable to hack out alone due to napping, despite trying many other methods and a lot of advice from various instructors (I was not completely inexperienced myself, I have my BHS stage 3 and have owned horses for 20 plus years and I wasn't afraid).
I have also found that everything is softer and she is more responsive. There is less resistence to higher level elements such as lead changes etc as we have built up a greater understanding and have a more solid base of communication.
I am not saying that this could not have been achieved any other way, I am just saying that for me and my horse Parelli is the route I have taken.
The biggest change was in her confidence, before I was unable to hack out alone due to napping, despite trying many other methods and a lot of advice from various instructors (I was not completely inexperienced myself, I have my BHS stage 3 and have owned horses for 20 plus years and I wasn't afraid).
I have also found that everything is softer and she is more responsive. There is less resistence to higher level elements such as lead changes etc as we have built up a greater understanding and have a more solid base of communication.
I am not saying that this could not have been achieved any other way, I am just saying that for me and my horse Parelli is the route I have taken.
RuthR
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Could someone outline what the stages actually mean to them please.
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Certainly. Level 1 is where you start and its ALL about safety - it gives you the basis of Horse psychology and the beginning of ground skills so that you can start to build up a language with the horse that he understands. This language is based on the dominance games that horses play with each other. So by playing the games you can prove to your horse that you know what you're doing and through that you earn your horse's trust and respect. It then takes you onto the early stages of ridden work including saddling up and mounting safely. For level 1 ridden skills you only need to walk and trot and bend your horse safely to a stop.
Level 2 is about developing harmony and fun with your horse - you further your understanding of horse psychology and your ability to read the horse's body language. You advance your ground work skills (both on line and at liberty) and also advance your ridden work to include canter and also do sideways and back-ups.
Level 3 is about refinement - you refine your skills that you have learnt through the previous level. The on-line work will now include things like 3 foot jumps, cantering/troting your horse into a trailer, doing longline driving etc and the liberty work will include circling (different to longing) and asking for transitions (up and down) then asking for a change of direction at canter to include flying lead changes etc. The ridden work does include riding bareback and bridle-less but also included ridding with a bridle and saddle to show things like canter to back-up, simple lead changes through walk, canter travers, half pass showing a flying lead change and then half pass the other way with another flying lead change.
I know I seem to have made more of level 3 than the previous levels - the previous level are an important pre-requisite to level 3. they are the foundation that you build upon. But I hope that by showing where you can get to by level 3 you might see that there is a point to this. As mentioned before I want to do dressage - how easy will I be to train if I can already do these moves with lightness from my horse? Then all a dressage trainer will need to do is shape us.
That is a brief overview of the levels - if you really want to know more (I'm going to be contraversial here
) try http://www.parelli.com/info_page.php?pag...am&t=OnePic for more information.
Some people have critised the fact that it is home study and that people will get themselves into trouble. Well, as I said I was getting weekly lessons and had lots of knowledgeable people around me and yet I was in deep trouble with my horse. Only when I started Parelli did I make any sort of improvement. I have been on courses with instructors for more 'intensive learning' and hands on help but the packs are really, really well thought out and they do cover for lots of eventuallities. The Parelli program really is a people teaching program first and formost. We are the issue...not the horses - its simply a happy by product that as a result of our learning the horses want to offer to perform the tasks that I list above. The other thing that the Parelli system offers is empowerment - you don't need someone standing over you telling you what to do because your horse will give you all the feedback you need to know and by going through the program you will learn what he is trying to tell you.
Could someone outline what the stages actually mean to them please.
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Certainly. Level 1 is where you start and its ALL about safety - it gives you the basis of Horse psychology and the beginning of ground skills so that you can start to build up a language with the horse that he understands. This language is based on the dominance games that horses play with each other. So by playing the games you can prove to your horse that you know what you're doing and through that you earn your horse's trust and respect. It then takes you onto the early stages of ridden work including saddling up and mounting safely. For level 1 ridden skills you only need to walk and trot and bend your horse safely to a stop.
Level 2 is about developing harmony and fun with your horse - you further your understanding of horse psychology and your ability to read the horse's body language. You advance your ground work skills (both on line and at liberty) and also advance your ridden work to include canter and also do sideways and back-ups.
Level 3 is about refinement - you refine your skills that you have learnt through the previous level. The on-line work will now include things like 3 foot jumps, cantering/troting your horse into a trailer, doing longline driving etc and the liberty work will include circling (different to longing) and asking for transitions (up and down) then asking for a change of direction at canter to include flying lead changes etc. The ridden work does include riding bareback and bridle-less but also included ridding with a bridle and saddle to show things like canter to back-up, simple lead changes through walk, canter travers, half pass showing a flying lead change and then half pass the other way with another flying lead change.
I know I seem to have made more of level 3 than the previous levels - the previous level are an important pre-requisite to level 3. they are the foundation that you build upon. But I hope that by showing where you can get to by level 3 you might see that there is a point to this. As mentioned before I want to do dressage - how easy will I be to train if I can already do these moves with lightness from my horse? Then all a dressage trainer will need to do is shape us.
That is a brief overview of the levels - if you really want to know more (I'm going to be contraversial here
Some people have critised the fact that it is home study and that people will get themselves into trouble. Well, as I said I was getting weekly lessons and had lots of knowledgeable people around me and yet I was in deep trouble with my horse. Only when I started Parelli did I make any sort of improvement. I have been on courses with instructors for more 'intensive learning' and hands on help but the packs are really, really well thought out and they do cover for lots of eventuallities. The Parelli program really is a people teaching program first and formost. We are the issue...not the horses - its simply a happy by product that as a result of our learning the horses want to offer to perform the tasks that I list above. The other thing that the Parelli system offers is empowerment - you don't need someone standing over you telling you what to do because your horse will give you all the feedback you need to know and by going through the program you will learn what he is trying to tell you.
Lynne21
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I think it's like every other discipline / thought / aspect of being around and working with horses - take a little bit of each and combine them and figure out what works for you and your horse. Yes - it is common sense, but how many of us have said "oh, of course!" when something that we now take to be just 'common sense' was first pointed out to us at whatever age?
I do think that the higher levels of the Parelli are really a bit 'circus trickery' but the lower levels do help in every day situations. I have 20 years experience with horses and have never had many problems due to common sense and a build up of trust, until recently with a bolshy but not nasty youngster. I was lucky to be visited by a friend of a friend from Germany who is big into Parelli and she showed me how to calm my youngster in hand and get her to respect my space when being led, I now have fewer problems with her and a mutual respect. She is now a nice person to have around most of the time and when she is a pig, I know what to attempt with her.
To completely dismiss it all out of hand, I think, is a bit egotistic, yes it is expensive stuff but each to their own. Just to make the point that, no, as a whole it does nothing for me but I will always be grateful for the 'common sense' aspect that I was shown that enabled me to keep my lovely filly and not have to sell her cos she was a handful!
I do think that the higher levels of the Parelli are really a bit 'circus trickery' but the lower levels do help in every day situations. I have 20 years experience with horses and have never had many problems due to common sense and a build up of trust, until recently with a bolshy but not nasty youngster. I was lucky to be visited by a friend of a friend from Germany who is big into Parelli and she showed me how to calm my youngster in hand and get her to respect my space when being led, I now have fewer problems with her and a mutual respect. She is now a nice person to have around most of the time and when she is a pig, I know what to attempt with her.
To completely dismiss it all out of hand, I think, is a bit egotistic, yes it is expensive stuff but each to their own. Just to make the point that, no, as a whole it does nothing for me but I will always be grateful for the 'common sense' aspect that I was shown that enabled me to keep my lovely filly and not have to sell her cos she was a handful!
Kate_13
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Nobody is saying that parelli is wrong, just that learning long distance from books e.t.c. can lead to disaster!
I oppose the fact that many Parelli people have said that due to their new enlightement they have found no need to buy expensive tack.
My question is well, how do you ride out, jump, dressage e.t.c Surely you need to buy a saddle, bridle, jods, hat, rugs e.t.c
Or do you guys just play your games in the field and don't ride any disciplines?
And many people have only gone into the groundwork side of things rather than ridden work.
What also got my goat was that people are saying that without parelli, people who don't use this 'technique!' don't have a good bond or communication with their horse.
I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
I oppose the fact that many Parelli people have said that due to their new enlightement they have found no need to buy expensive tack.
My question is well, how do you ride out, jump, dressage e.t.c Surely you need to buy a saddle, bridle, jods, hat, rugs e.t.c
Or do you guys just play your games in the field and don't ride any disciplines?
And many people have only gone into the groundwork side of things rather than ridden work.
What also got my goat was that people are saying that without parelli, people who don't use this 'technique!' don't have a good bond or communication with their horse.
I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
laura77
New User
Please do not blame the majority for what the minority are saying.
I have a saddle and bridle and yes I occasionally buy jods, rugs and a hat etc. I think this is just being taken to literally. I am not sure exactly where the difference is but I can tell you that I spend a lot less money now than before I started Parelli.
The Parelli's cannot control what their students say anymore than the BHS can control theirs but I do know that both Pat and Linda are continually open to new "techniques" and training and the programme is constantly being developed and changing.
It is simply people's opinion when they say that it is the only way and everyone should do it. Parelli is not for everyone and nowhere is it said that it should be. People should just be able to have a choice.
I turned to Parelli and most importantly have stayed with Parelli because of what it has taught me, because of the look I get on my horses face when she sees me, and because of the friends and support I have found on the way.
I will say again that I know this is not the only way and it is not for everybody but it is the route I have chosen.
I have a saddle and bridle and yes I occasionally buy jods, rugs and a hat etc. I think this is just being taken to literally. I am not sure exactly where the difference is but I can tell you that I spend a lot less money now than before I started Parelli.
The Parelli's cannot control what their students say anymore than the BHS can control theirs but I do know that both Pat and Linda are continually open to new "techniques" and training and the programme is constantly being developed and changing.
It is simply people's opinion when they say that it is the only way and everyone should do it. Parelli is not for everyone and nowhere is it said that it should be. People should just be able to have a choice.
I turned to Parelli and most importantly have stayed with Parelli because of what it has taught me, because of the look I get on my horses face when she sees me, and because of the friends and support I have found on the way.
I will say again that I know this is not the only way and it is not for everybody but it is the route I have chosen.
Weezy
Well-Known Member
Thanks again Ruth! So if someone has a horse that they actually have no probs with, respects their space, works harmoniously with their owner, is happy to be ridden and the rest, can Parelli benefit it? I can understand why people turn to these types of learning when they have a problem, but for someone such as myself and my horse, I struggle to understand how it can improve our relationship. She is a mare, she gets SLIGHTLY stressed if other horses are turned out and she is left in (when she is in season as she loves her BFs!), that is her only fault and I cannot think Parelli would help that, as it is hormone based!
Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
Kate_13
Well-Known Member
Thanks Laura, you argument has been the most balanced with regard to how you use it. Thanks for your post.
I am glad it has worked for you.
I am glad it has worked for you.
RuthR
Member
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Nobody is saying that parelli is wrong, just that learning long distance from books e.t.c. can lead to disaster!
I oppose the fact that many Parelli people have said that due to their new enlightement they have found no need to buy expensive tack.
My question is well, how do you ride out, jump, dressage e.t.c Surely you need to buy a saddle, bridle, jods, hat, rugs e.t.c
Or do you guys just play your games in the field and don't ride any disciplines?
And many people have only gone into the groundwork side of things rather than ridden work.
What also got my goat was that people are saying that without parelli, people who don't use this 'technique!' don't have a good bond or communication with their horse.
I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
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i will try to answer some of your points but this is my experience so I hope you will be respectful of that.
I bought my horse and he came with a saddle - yes I did end up buying a new saddle but that was simply because his old saddle no-longer fitted him. I would have had to that whether I was a Parelli student or not. I have also had to buy new rugs but thats because I had had the old ones for nearly 7 years and the waterproffing had well and truely gone on them so had to be replaced.
I have, for the moment, withdrawn from competing. I'm a studetn at uni and really didn't have the time anyway. I also found that I was more successful if I just stuck to the program. I'm taking the time it takes to get a really good foundation with my horse now so that if I go back to dressage I won't have to waste time going back over stuff time and time again as I was doing 'pre-parelli'.
I love doing the ground work stuff - its great fun and it's something that I had never been introduced to before. But I also ride and have fun doing that to. Perhaps the people you have seen are not yet confident to ride. I went through a period of not riding because I was scared and realised I didn't need to ride if I was feeling that. I want to enjoy riding - I can't enjoy it if I'm scared. So I worked on the ground skills and challenged my horse more while on the ground where I felt safe and doing that gave me the confidence to ride again.
I also gave up on jumping when I bought my horse because I was too scared. My horse had never been put over a jump before I got him. Through Parelli I intorduced him to jumping on-line and he loves it. Through challenging him on-line over jumps and getting him confident that way I have now started to also ride him over jumps. Sure their only small jumps but what does that matter? We are having fun and doing something that I had long given up on doing ever again.
I have never said that these results can't happen without Parelli - look back through my previous posts. I have simply said that for me it has helped me more than anything else to get this relationship with my horse. I look around at shows however and I don't very often see the type of relationship that I have with my horse in the other competitors. I have learnt to read a horse's body language and it breaks my heart to see what those horses are feeling and to see that their riders are oblivious to it. To me a horse that is mis-read as being bad when it is actually scared half to death is far more dangerous than me with my orange stick working at home with my horse. Those 'bad' horses are often then forced to do the exact thing that is scaring them so they 'blow' up and things can go from bad to worse very quickly.
Finally, If you want to know why I got into Parelli again look back to my first post or you can e-mail me and I will tell you the ins and outs.
As I said at the beginning this is simply my view of things.
Nobody is saying that parelli is wrong, just that learning long distance from books e.t.c. can lead to disaster!
I oppose the fact that many Parelli people have said that due to their new enlightement they have found no need to buy expensive tack.
My question is well, how do you ride out, jump, dressage e.t.c Surely you need to buy a saddle, bridle, jods, hat, rugs e.t.c
Or do you guys just play your games in the field and don't ride any disciplines?
And many people have only gone into the groundwork side of things rather than ridden work.
What also got my goat was that people are saying that without parelli, people who don't use this 'technique!' don't have a good bond or communication with their horse.
I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
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i will try to answer some of your points but this is my experience so I hope you will be respectful of that.
I bought my horse and he came with a saddle - yes I did end up buying a new saddle but that was simply because his old saddle no-longer fitted him. I would have had to that whether I was a Parelli student or not. I have also had to buy new rugs but thats because I had had the old ones for nearly 7 years and the waterproffing had well and truely gone on them so had to be replaced.
I have, for the moment, withdrawn from competing. I'm a studetn at uni and really didn't have the time anyway. I also found that I was more successful if I just stuck to the program. I'm taking the time it takes to get a really good foundation with my horse now so that if I go back to dressage I won't have to waste time going back over stuff time and time again as I was doing 'pre-parelli'.
I love doing the ground work stuff - its great fun and it's something that I had never been introduced to before. But I also ride and have fun doing that to. Perhaps the people you have seen are not yet confident to ride. I went through a period of not riding because I was scared and realised I didn't need to ride if I was feeling that. I want to enjoy riding - I can't enjoy it if I'm scared. So I worked on the ground skills and challenged my horse more while on the ground where I felt safe and doing that gave me the confidence to ride again.
I also gave up on jumping when I bought my horse because I was too scared. My horse had never been put over a jump before I got him. Through Parelli I intorduced him to jumping on-line and he loves it. Through challenging him on-line over jumps and getting him confident that way I have now started to also ride him over jumps. Sure their only small jumps but what does that matter? We are having fun and doing something that I had long given up on doing ever again.
I have never said that these results can't happen without Parelli - look back through my previous posts. I have simply said that for me it has helped me more than anything else to get this relationship with my horse. I look around at shows however and I don't very often see the type of relationship that I have with my horse in the other competitors. I have learnt to read a horse's body language and it breaks my heart to see what those horses are feeling and to see that their riders are oblivious to it. To me a horse that is mis-read as being bad when it is actually scared half to death is far more dangerous than me with my orange stick working at home with my horse. Those 'bad' horses are often then forced to do the exact thing that is scaring them so they 'blow' up and things can go from bad to worse very quickly.
Finally, If you want to know why I got into Parelli again look back to my first post or you can e-mail me and I will tell you the ins and outs.
As I said at the beginning this is simply my view of things.
cheeryplatypus
Well-Known Member
i used parelli after having my confidence ruined by a totally unsuitable first horse. the replacement horse was very green and had possibly been whipped and overfaced in the past. and needed me to be confident for him, which i wasn't . while i still ride in a snaffle and conventional saddle not halter, i find it much easier to read what my horse is feeling (which i know most people do quite naturally!), the ground work exercises help him understand what i mean in the saddle and he trusts and responds with much more confidence than a few months ago. i wouldnt say i'm a parelli fanatic (have not used 'carrot stick'), but feel their techniques have a place together with common sense. what i like is their attitude of asking horse to do things; not forcing or bullying them. while i understand it may not be for everyone it certainly helped my sensitive horse start to enjoy his work. (yes i did feel the DVDs were expensive but when you add up the cost of private lessons at home it's not that bad)
Kate_13
Well-Known Member
Thanks Ruth, like Laura you have given a balanced answer.
What got our backs up (certainly mine) was the whole approach that parelli fans took. No one until now gave a balanced answer, it seemed like they were all saying how wonderful parelli is and damn to all those who didn't use it.
Good luck with your jumping. I am not a parelli follower (clearly) but have done the same with my boy. He never jumped but I got him used to it on the lunge and he is now quite happy jumping. Again like you only small, but yes we all have to start somewhere.
What got our backs up (certainly mine) was the whole approach that parelli fans took. No one until now gave a balanced answer, it seemed like they were all saying how wonderful parelli is and damn to all those who didn't use it.
Good luck with your jumping. I am not a parelli follower (clearly) but have done the same with my boy. He never jumped but I got him used to it on the lunge and he is now quite happy jumping. Again like you only small, but yes we all have to start somewhere.
Foxglove
Well-Known Member
Having only just come back to this thread, i didn't feel i could add anymore that what has already been said by Wheezy, Teira etc but many Parelli followers just do not seem to realise that what works for one horse does not work for another (in fact this is obviously the case for everything).
With regard to standing still when being mounted, every horse needs to be taught at some time, this usually involves patience and repetition, nothing to do with a higher understanding. I will give an example. Every horse i have had, i have taught to stand by a gate so i can get on, i will ask it to step sideways and may tap its quarters with the schooling whip so it moves towards me. At no time is any pain inflicted. As long as you are patient they will learn. I appreciate that this is probably not the common of methods LOL but it works for me and my horses and they are certainly happy.
I would also like to comment on the poster who mentioned approach and retreat. This should be used with great caution. In my younger, more impressionable days i believed NH (must emphasise they were not parelli) was going to work wonders with my oppoinated, difficult arab, who had been well handled, not allowed to bite, was perfect to tie up, loaded but could be incrediably difficult. He was there 2 weeks (to be broken) and i was told he needed to express himself, discover what his 'safety zones' were and not be forced to step outside them. He did not need to be punished for biting as that was him relieving tension. What i ended up with after 2 weeks was a horse who had learnt if he didn't want to do something he didn't have to, he would automatically spin around and his biting was worse than it ever had been. They hadn't even long reined him at that point. I took him back and they offerd to come to my yard to help me until i decided just to get on him. Funnily this didn't go down well, I had gone against the grain so to speak LOL. He was perfect to get on but decided he didn't want to do anything. I ended up having him finished by a showjumper who claimed he was the most difficult, oppoinated horse he had ever had but he got him going just by working him hard. If he didn't do it the first time he was justed worked harder. No pain, just work. I woud love to say it all worked out well, he was supposed to be the horse of a lifetime, the one that was going to be a top 100 miler (i was seriously into endurance then) but he jacked it. Hit a wall and wouldn't go any further forwards, but would happily retrace the last 30 miles but would refuse point blank to go the last 100 yards with the line and trailers in site. I am not saying this wouldn't have happened anyway, but i have no doubt in my mind that the NH went a good way in contributing to it. I can't believe i was that naive.
My mare however is the total opposite, would drop dead trying to please you and that has nothing to do with playing 'games'. She does it because she trusts me and i adore her.
So while i think it is all well and good if it works for your horse, i won't be joining you in celebrating this move.
ETS i still have my arab he is probably too difficult to sell and in the wrong hands would be labled dangerous but for all his attitude i love him and accept that he has a mental block. No amount of schooling or game playing will ever undo the damage inflicted by NH
With regard to standing still when being mounted, every horse needs to be taught at some time, this usually involves patience and repetition, nothing to do with a higher understanding. I will give an example. Every horse i have had, i have taught to stand by a gate so i can get on, i will ask it to step sideways and may tap its quarters with the schooling whip so it moves towards me. At no time is any pain inflicted. As long as you are patient they will learn. I appreciate that this is probably not the common of methods LOL but it works for me and my horses and they are certainly happy.
I would also like to comment on the poster who mentioned approach and retreat. This should be used with great caution. In my younger, more impressionable days i believed NH (must emphasise they were not parelli) was going to work wonders with my oppoinated, difficult arab, who had been well handled, not allowed to bite, was perfect to tie up, loaded but could be incrediably difficult. He was there 2 weeks (to be broken) and i was told he needed to express himself, discover what his 'safety zones' were and not be forced to step outside them. He did not need to be punished for biting as that was him relieving tension. What i ended up with after 2 weeks was a horse who had learnt if he didn't want to do something he didn't have to, he would automatically spin around and his biting was worse than it ever had been. They hadn't even long reined him at that point. I took him back and they offerd to come to my yard to help me until i decided just to get on him. Funnily this didn't go down well, I had gone against the grain so to speak LOL. He was perfect to get on but decided he didn't want to do anything. I ended up having him finished by a showjumper who claimed he was the most difficult, oppoinated horse he had ever had but he got him going just by working him hard. If he didn't do it the first time he was justed worked harder. No pain, just work. I woud love to say it all worked out well, he was supposed to be the horse of a lifetime, the one that was going to be a top 100 miler (i was seriously into endurance then) but he jacked it. Hit a wall and wouldn't go any further forwards, but would happily retrace the last 30 miles but would refuse point blank to go the last 100 yards with the line and trailers in site. I am not saying this wouldn't have happened anyway, but i have no doubt in my mind that the NH went a good way in contributing to it. I can't believe i was that naive.
My mare however is the total opposite, would drop dead trying to please you and that has nothing to do with playing 'games'. She does it because she trusts me and i adore her.
So while i think it is all well and good if it works for your horse, i won't be joining you in celebrating this move.
ETS i still have my arab he is probably too difficult to sell and in the wrong hands would be labled dangerous but for all his attitude i love him and accept that he has a mental block. No amount of schooling or game playing will ever undo the damage inflicted by NH
RuthR
Member
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Thanks again Ruth! So if someone has a horse that they actually have no probs with, respects their space, works harmoniously with their owner, is happy to be ridden and the rest, can Parelli benefit it? I can understand why people turn to these types of learning when they have a problem, but for someone such as myself and my horse, I struggle to understand how it can improve our relationship. She is a mare, she gets SLIGHTLY stressed if other horses are turned out and she is left in (when she is in season as she loves her BFs!), that is her only fault and I cannot think Parelli would help that, as it is hormone based!
Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
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In my experience Parelli has worked with my difficult horse and my pony who I already had a wonderful relationship with. They are both extremely different characters so its really interesting to see what leader I have to be for each of them. I'm sure that you and your horse would benifit from Parelli - you would be amazed at what things it helps solve! It might take some time but I'm sure you would see improvements in your mare's behaviour when stabled by herself. My horse was extremly herd bound but now he's the first one to leave the herd when he hears me call and is happy to be in his stable by himself (he use to rear in the stable if left alone!) The thing that made a difference...my horse saw me as a leader.
As for knowing when to move on - I have tried to skip ahead and quickly learnt that it doesn't work! Nothing bad happened but I did damage my horse's confidence which took time to rebuild again. I realised that I need to follow the steps and if I did that I would progress much faster.
But also on the flip side if I stayed on something too long my horse would get bored so again I must read my horse and make a decision based on that. If I read him as scared then I will take longer over something...If I read him as bored then I will use obstacles to challenge him and get him thinking.
My horse changes very quickly from confident to unconfident so its a real test of my savvy to read him right and do the right thing. I have on occassions got it wrong but I very quickly realise I've done the wrong thing and try something else and that will normally sort the problem out. I'm still only learning.
If you would like to send me an e-mail with any more questions I happy to answer them.
Thanks again Ruth! So if someone has a horse that they actually have no probs with, respects their space, works harmoniously with their owner, is happy to be ridden and the rest, can Parelli benefit it? I can understand why people turn to these types of learning when they have a problem, but for someone such as myself and my horse, I struggle to understand how it can improve our relationship. She is a mare, she gets SLIGHTLY stressed if other horses are turned out and she is left in (when she is in season as she loves her BFs!), that is her only fault and I cannot think Parelli would help that, as it is hormone based!
Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
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In my experience Parelli has worked with my difficult horse and my pony who I already had a wonderful relationship with. They are both extremely different characters so its really interesting to see what leader I have to be for each of them. I'm sure that you and your horse would benifit from Parelli - you would be amazed at what things it helps solve! It might take some time but I'm sure you would see improvements in your mare's behaviour when stabled by herself. My horse was extremly herd bound but now he's the first one to leave the herd when he hears me call and is happy to be in his stable by himself (he use to rear in the stable if left alone!) The thing that made a difference...my horse saw me as a leader.
As for knowing when to move on - I have tried to skip ahead and quickly learnt that it doesn't work! Nothing bad happened but I did damage my horse's confidence which took time to rebuild again. I realised that I need to follow the steps and if I did that I would progress much faster.
But also on the flip side if I stayed on something too long my horse would get bored so again I must read my horse and make a decision based on that. If I read him as scared then I will take longer over something...If I read him as bored then I will use obstacles to challenge him and get him thinking.
My horse changes very quickly from confident to unconfident so its a real test of my savvy to read him right and do the right thing. I have on occassions got it wrong but I very quickly realise I've done the wrong thing and try something else and that will normally sort the problem out. I'm still only learning.
If you would like to send me an e-mail with any more questions I happy to answer them.
Weezy
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It might take some time but I'm sure you would see improvements in your mare's behaviour when stabled by herself. My horse was extremly herd bound but now he's the first one to leave the herd when he hears me call and is happy to be in his stable by himself (he use to rear in the stable if left alone!) The thing that made a difference...my horse saw me as a leader.
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Ah no, she has her own field, next to the other horses, she always comes to call and is happy to be caught 1 min after being turned out. If I am totally honest, I would not be very happy if she suddenly thought she didn't have to *miss* her companions, missing your friends cannot be a bad thing as it shows emotion... not really explaining myself very well! She doesn't do anything BAD when left in, just calls.
It might take some time but I'm sure you would see improvements in your mare's behaviour when stabled by herself. My horse was extremly herd bound but now he's the first one to leave the herd when he hears me call and is happy to be in his stable by himself (he use to rear in the stable if left alone!) The thing that made a difference...my horse saw me as a leader.
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Ah no, she has her own field, next to the other horses, she always comes to call and is happy to be caught 1 min after being turned out. If I am totally honest, I would not be very happy if she suddenly thought she didn't have to *miss* her companions, missing your friends cannot be a bad thing as it shows emotion... not really explaining myself very well! She doesn't do anything BAD when left in, just calls.
cvb
Member
An interesting and active conversation, with some strong feelings and opinions on all sides
Is it distance learning in general people have concerns about ? Some distance learning packages are theory only - is it the practice element that concerns people ?
Actually I think this would really classify as "blended learning" in most cases as the courses or instructors back up the study packs.
I went to the Scottish Instructors Conference this week - Stephen Clarke - it cost me £35 for the day as a BHS member. The Parelli conference cost me £70 - also as a member. Same price per day. In both cases it is an international level person I am getting to see.
Stephen C talked about limits, about softness, about acceptance. These are all things that crop up (maybe with different words) in both "mainstream" and Natural Horsemanship.
For any system of learning, I personally think it makes a difference what existing skills and competencies you take into it with you. My understanding and comprehension of what Stephen showed us on Monday is at a certain level - someone I talked to commented that the earlier sessions (Prelim, Novice) were easier for her to understand than the later ones (last one was working to GPrix). I could watch and understand at that higher level, but I sure wasn't going to go home and manage to do any of it ! (LOL)
My personal experience of BHS is that it has a tendency to focus, especially at the lower levels, on technical/mechanical skills. To a certain extent the lower levels of PNH do the same IMHO but from a different point of view. (I am not saying PNH lower levels are about technical riding skills - but that there is more focus on what* you do than *why* and the *why* gets worked on as your progress. Though I am basing this on the old version of the packs and haven't taken a good look at the revised programme yet).
In the same way that BHS offers various forms of assessment and certification, so does PNH. BHS accredits its own levels. So does PNH.
Like any learning programme, both BHS and PNH review, revise and update their programmes.
If I want to do certain exams with BHS I really need to be getting good experience e.g. I took 3 months to do my BHSAI fulltime. Higher levels of PNH require similar commitment and focused study.
So in terms of their learning structure, not so different. if we condemn PNH for some of these things, are we happy to also condemn other systems with the same characteristics ?
I have personally found PNH a useful tool in my toolbox. Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
Is it distance learning in general people have concerns about ? Some distance learning packages are theory only - is it the practice element that concerns people ?
Actually I think this would really classify as "blended learning" in most cases as the courses or instructors back up the study packs.
I went to the Scottish Instructors Conference this week - Stephen Clarke - it cost me £35 for the day as a BHS member. The Parelli conference cost me £70 - also as a member. Same price per day. In both cases it is an international level person I am getting to see.
Stephen C talked about limits, about softness, about acceptance. These are all things that crop up (maybe with different words) in both "mainstream" and Natural Horsemanship.
For any system of learning, I personally think it makes a difference what existing skills and competencies you take into it with you. My understanding and comprehension of what Stephen showed us on Monday is at a certain level - someone I talked to commented that the earlier sessions (Prelim, Novice) were easier for her to understand than the later ones (last one was working to GPrix). I could watch and understand at that higher level, but I sure wasn't going to go home and manage to do any of it ! (LOL)
My personal experience of BHS is that it has a tendency to focus, especially at the lower levels, on technical/mechanical skills. To a certain extent the lower levels of PNH do the same IMHO but from a different point of view. (I am not saying PNH lower levels are about technical riding skills - but that there is more focus on what* you do than *why* and the *why* gets worked on as your progress. Though I am basing this on the old version of the packs and haven't taken a good look at the revised programme yet).
In the same way that BHS offers various forms of assessment and certification, so does PNH. BHS accredits its own levels. So does PNH.
Like any learning programme, both BHS and PNH review, revise and update their programmes.
If I want to do certain exams with BHS I really need to be getting good experience e.g. I took 3 months to do my BHSAI fulltime. Higher levels of PNH require similar commitment and focused study.
So in terms of their learning structure, not so different. if we condemn PNH for some of these things, are we happy to also condemn other systems with the same characteristics ?
I have personally found PNH a useful tool in my toolbox. Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
cvb
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Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
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With every level pack there is an associated set of assessment tasks - you can self-assess to a degree. But to be confirmed as having passed a particular level you would need to be assessed by an external person. (In the same way as you are assessed for anything else you get "qualifed" in).
There is also a general view that if you need to move on, you should. If you are repeating the same things, it doesn't help you or the horse.
Also, and this does interest me a lot - how does a novice owner know when to move on - I can imagine a lot of people may get bored with a step if their horse isn't playing ball and skip it and move on to the next level...
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With every level pack there is an associated set of assessment tasks - you can self-assess to a degree. But to be confirmed as having passed a particular level you would need to be assessed by an external person. (In the same way as you are assessed for anything else you get "qualifed" in).
There is also a general view that if you need to move on, you should. If you are repeating the same things, it doesn't help you or the horse.
Lynne21
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I have personally found PNH a useful tool in my toolbox. Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
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Yep! Nothing better than a well equipped tool box - you never know when a certain tool might help with the job and if it doesn't, try a different one but don't dismiss it out of hand.
I have personally found PNH a useful tool in my toolbox. Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
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Yep! Nothing better than a well equipped tool box - you never know when a certain tool might help with the job and if it doesn't, try a different one but don't dismiss it out of hand.
PaddyMonty
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Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
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Now if all the followers took that approach I doubt there would be much antagonism towards Parelli. Unfortuneately, it is often purported to be The 'only' and 'perfect' tool by many that I and I assume others have met. It is this rigid stance thats gets the baby thrown out with the bath water.
Its not the only tool. Its not the perfect tool. But it is in there for me to use.
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Now if all the followers took that approach I doubt there would be much antagonism towards Parelli. Unfortuneately, it is often purported to be The 'only' and 'perfect' tool by many that I and I assume others have met. It is this rigid stance thats gets the baby thrown out with the bath water.
chris_gratton
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and has it created a happy 'Ridden' relationship?
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Hi 4faulter
Yes, happily it resulted in my being able to confidently ride this mare, sadly she died 2 years ago. It took a long time but I did progress from shaking badly and getting on and then straight off to being able to canter happily, though I never got to the bareback stage! Now I have an 'easier' model, I still do Parelli with her because I enjoy it so much.
Chris G & Jazz
and has it created a happy 'Ridden' relationship?
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Hi 4faulter
Yes, happily it resulted in my being able to confidently ride this mare, sadly she died 2 years ago. It took a long time but I did progress from shaking badly and getting on and then straight off to being able to canter happily, though I never got to the bareback stage! Now I have an 'easier' model, I still do Parelli with her because I enjoy it so much.
Chris G & Jazz
chris_gratton
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I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
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I think there are lots of reasons why people become interested in Parelli. For many of us the simple answer is 'no, we didn't know how to create a bond with our horse'. For some people it is part of their nature and talent for some of us not so. We all have to choose a route to progress, some of us choose Parelli others choose other methods. Most will have their merits i think.
I would be interested to know why people have turned to parelli. Is it because people don't know how to achieve a bond with their horse without the aid of £400 + of parelli equipment?
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I think there are lots of reasons why people become interested in Parelli. For many of us the simple answer is 'no, we didn't know how to create a bond with our horse'. For some people it is part of their nature and talent for some of us not so. We all have to choose a route to progress, some of us choose Parelli others choose other methods. Most will have their merits i think.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
All hail Great Parellis, sole defenders of equine welfare.
I too watched a Parelli demonstration and it made me want to cry.....
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PS RCAWilson - are you related to the Parellis/work for them?
I too watched a Parelli demonstration and it made me want to cry.....
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PS RCAWilson - are you related to the Parellis/work for them?
cvb
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Just a contoversial thought, has anyone wondered that the people who have turned to parelli were having problems with their horse becasue they wern't experienced enough or didn't have enough experiened people around them?
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A lot of the people I have met who have turned to PNH have done so because they have tried everything else and it has not worked. I think this explains a lot of the passion and zeal you see from them - because it really has got them out of a hole.
And in most cases they have already tried to find good people to help them and it has not worked.
I personally did not go to PNH for this reason, and have not had that kind of "Road to Damascus" conversion. I have curiosity. I take that curiosity along to demos and lectures for all sorts of people. I had a horse on loan while its normal rider had her back pinned. They had experienced handling problems and had started natural horsemanship with her, so for consistency sake I handled her the same way (she went back to them when the rider was unpinned).
So I had seen PNH, and I had tried a bit of it.
Yes it seems like commonsense to me. A lecturer once said to me "Commonsense is the obvious *once it has been pointed out*". Its not obvious until it is (pointed out).
But approaches like PNH also give a framework and structure to that commonsense. Does it go against anything I had learnt before ? No. Have I taken other teaching into account in my* use and application of it ? Yes.
I do want to raise a slightly different point while I am here tho'. I was thinking about the whole "Stoneleigh" issue. In general I would want the equestrain world to be inclusive - our voices together are stronger. But Stoneleigh is representative of *disciplines* not of individuals or brands within a discipline.
So how does PNH and what they are doing at Stoneleigh fit within that ? Are they simply the *first* natural horsemanship area to be represented - and the facilities will happily include other individuals, brands ?
e.g. if Charlotte Dennis, or Leslie Desmond, or Mark Rashid, or John or Josh Lyons, or any of those folk want to come to the UK - can they also make use of that base as part of "Natural Horsemanship in the UK" ?? r even the people already here (Intelligent Horsemanship for example).
I don't know the answer to that - but I think it is an important precedent being set and we ought to know one way or the other !
Just a contoversial thought, has anyone wondered that the people who have turned to parelli were having problems with their horse becasue they wern't experienced enough or didn't have enough experiened people around them?
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A lot of the people I have met who have turned to PNH have done so because they have tried everything else and it has not worked. I think this explains a lot of the passion and zeal you see from them - because it really has got them out of a hole.
And in most cases they have already tried to find good people to help them and it has not worked.
I personally did not go to PNH for this reason, and have not had that kind of "Road to Damascus" conversion. I have curiosity. I take that curiosity along to demos and lectures for all sorts of people. I had a horse on loan while its normal rider had her back pinned. They had experienced handling problems and had started natural horsemanship with her, so for consistency sake I handled her the same way (she went back to them when the rider was unpinned).
So I had seen PNH, and I had tried a bit of it.
Yes it seems like commonsense to me. A lecturer once said to me "Commonsense is the obvious *once it has been pointed out*". Its not obvious until it is (pointed out).
But approaches like PNH also give a framework and structure to that commonsense. Does it go against anything I had learnt before ? No. Have I taken other teaching into account in my* use and application of it ? Yes.
I do want to raise a slightly different point while I am here tho'. I was thinking about the whole "Stoneleigh" issue. In general I would want the equestrain world to be inclusive - our voices together are stronger. But Stoneleigh is representative of *disciplines* not of individuals or brands within a discipline.
So how does PNH and what they are doing at Stoneleigh fit within that ? Are they simply the *first* natural horsemanship area to be represented - and the facilities will happily include other individuals, brands ?
e.g. if Charlotte Dennis, or Leslie Desmond, or Mark Rashid, or John or Josh Lyons, or any of those folk want to come to the UK - can they also make use of that base as part of "Natural Horsemanship in the UK" ?? r even the people already here (Intelligent Horsemanship for example).
I don't know the answer to that - but I think it is an important precedent being set and we ought to know one way or the other !
wattsy
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I think he is a good horseman, and an even better businessman! Apparently he became much more 'savvy' when he met his wife - behind every good man and all that...
Be interested to know if 'Parelli' is still a franchise in this country, which would explain why it's not possible to get on to the US Parelli site by link..
I've seen him once, and undoubtably he is a good horseman, but have to say I found the whole thing almost religous in it's fervour...
Also saw a display at Equus, docklands, and v. impressed when a lady in a wheelchair loaded 2 fresians in a trailer, backwards, just by voice and body cues. Awesome!
Be interested to know if 'Parelli' is still a franchise in this country, which would explain why it's not possible to get on to the US Parelli site by link..
I've seen him once, and undoubtably he is a good horseman, but have to say I found the whole thing almost religous in it's fervour...
Also saw a display at Equus, docklands, and v. impressed when a lady in a wheelchair loaded 2 fresians in a trailer, backwards, just by voice and body cues. Awesome!
akn102
Member
Very upset for many of the writers here that they clearly have not ever actually found out what Parelli is about. I have completed BHS exams, Pony Club exams and Parelli Level's exams so speak with knowledge from 'both sides of the fence'. Parell is not about sticks, tricks and not riding because you're scared etc etc , Having done Parelli Level 1 I then went to do BHS professional exams and gave up exasperated that they have practically nothing to do with horses more with human safety and the mechanics of how to sit on , feed, groom and bandage said horse.
PARELLI IS ABOUT - teaching humans indepth horse psychology so they are safe on the ground and in the saddle. If Parelli really is over priced common sense how come I didn't find this "common sense" out from any BHS instructor (and I've tried some very well qualified ones in my time). Parelli is actually teaching things that no other organisation has been able to put into words. UNDERSTANDING and LEADERSHIP so your horse is no longer 'made' to do things but actually works as a partner and 'with' you rather than 'for' you.
Having tried both the 'normal' way, then natural/parelli, back to 'normal' and now I'm back to Parelli and will never be with horses any other way again. I have yet to meet a 'normal' person able to create a piaffe or passage from their horse while on the ground with no rope/strings attached. I've had many sceptics and critics borrow my parelli pack and join me in natural horsemanship through seeing how I deal with little 'problems' more naturally and with my horses confidence and dignity intact. I'm only in the very lowest levels of the parelli programme and even my basics can have that much impact. I was appalling to my old pony until I discovered Parelli - I just didn't realise it.
My final word on this - someone one here says their instructor said they felt 'sorry' for the horse who was doing Parelli. I feel sorry for the 'normal' horse controlled by flash nosebands, draw reins, martingales, bits and all manner of gizmos and gadgets. In that is 'horsemanship' you can keep it.
To the people out there that sneer and joke at something they clearly don't know much/anything about I'd say you're probably scared of change (as I was) and you're probably under a lot of peer pressure to stay 'normal' - I've been there myself. It's very hard to break ranks and do something different. It's also very hard to look at your horses with growing realisation that you don't actually know what makes them tick.
PARELLI IS ABOUT - teaching humans indepth horse psychology so they are safe on the ground and in the saddle. If Parelli really is over priced common sense how come I didn't find this "common sense" out from any BHS instructor (and I've tried some very well qualified ones in my time). Parelli is actually teaching things that no other organisation has been able to put into words. UNDERSTANDING and LEADERSHIP so your horse is no longer 'made' to do things but actually works as a partner and 'with' you rather than 'for' you.
Having tried both the 'normal' way, then natural/parelli, back to 'normal' and now I'm back to Parelli and will never be with horses any other way again. I have yet to meet a 'normal' person able to create a piaffe or passage from their horse while on the ground with no rope/strings attached. I've had many sceptics and critics borrow my parelli pack and join me in natural horsemanship through seeing how I deal with little 'problems' more naturally and with my horses confidence and dignity intact. I'm only in the very lowest levels of the parelli programme and even my basics can have that much impact. I was appalling to my old pony until I discovered Parelli - I just didn't realise it.
My final word on this - someone one here says their instructor said they felt 'sorry' for the horse who was doing Parelli. I feel sorry for the 'normal' horse controlled by flash nosebands, draw reins, martingales, bits and all manner of gizmos and gadgets. In that is 'horsemanship' you can keep it.
To the people out there that sneer and joke at something they clearly don't know much/anything about I'd say you're probably scared of change (as I was) and you're probably under a lot of peer pressure to stay 'normal' - I've been there myself. It's very hard to break ranks and do something different. It's also very hard to look at your horses with growing realisation that you don't actually know what makes them tick.
akn102
Member
In answer to your question, there is no parelli franchise in this country - Parelli USA run it direct and have an office here at Stoneleigh Park. The webside is www.parelli.com
Toni
New User
Not all people join up with Parelli because they have problem horses or fear issues - although many do as a last resort. I have kept horses and ponies all my life. The usual progression through Pony Club and its tests, riding lessons, competitions, etc.
I read one of Pat's books and it made a lot of sense. I was intrigued - lets try Level 1 and see what else he has to say. At the time I had 2 equines - neither of them a "problem horse", but I wanted to learn more about them and how to communicate with them more effectively. It wasn't until I started the programme that I realised how much better things between us could be. My mare - dominant mare - was always nice natured, good to catch, hack out and hunt. She suffered terribly from separation anxiety. OK to hack out on her own - but left in the yard on her own and she just couldn't cope. I accepted that was the way it was and worked around it. To bridle, she would raise her head - no problem I could stand on the mounting block. She would snarl when you put the saddle on - check the back, check the saddle - its just association from "another time" - no problem, she didn't bite just gave me a look and moved around - no problem, keep her tied up. We can work around that. Get the picture? Not life threatening or dangerous, just the way it was.
The pony hated injections. Well behaved, good with children grooming him, riding him but hated injections. Oh well, only once a year - no problem.
Today, with no issues just following the course, understanding them better, listening to what they have to say, giving them leadership all these issues have gone. My herd has extended - and a youngster with some pretty extreme problems has joined us. The change in him has been incredible. I am at the end of Level 2 and I will continue with Level 3. My youngster will be backed by a Parelli professional and hopefully will be the horse he deserves to be and not the lost cause he once was.
Parelli is not the only way - its just one way. Like all systems it can only be as good as the user, and of course things can be mis-interpreted. But, if you use your common sense, listen to what is really being said and most importanly listen to your horse its amazing what can be achieved. So, keep an open mind, find your own path, make your own journey but keep the good of the horse as your priority.
I read one of Pat's books and it made a lot of sense. I was intrigued - lets try Level 1 and see what else he has to say. At the time I had 2 equines - neither of them a "problem horse", but I wanted to learn more about them and how to communicate with them more effectively. It wasn't until I started the programme that I realised how much better things between us could be. My mare - dominant mare - was always nice natured, good to catch, hack out and hunt. She suffered terribly from separation anxiety. OK to hack out on her own - but left in the yard on her own and she just couldn't cope. I accepted that was the way it was and worked around it. To bridle, she would raise her head - no problem I could stand on the mounting block. She would snarl when you put the saddle on - check the back, check the saddle - its just association from "another time" - no problem, she didn't bite just gave me a look and moved around - no problem, keep her tied up. We can work around that. Get the picture? Not life threatening or dangerous, just the way it was.
The pony hated injections. Well behaved, good with children grooming him, riding him but hated injections. Oh well, only once a year - no problem.
Today, with no issues just following the course, understanding them better, listening to what they have to say, giving them leadership all these issues have gone. My herd has extended - and a youngster with some pretty extreme problems has joined us. The change in him has been incredible. I am at the end of Level 2 and I will continue with Level 3. My youngster will be backed by a Parelli professional and hopefully will be the horse he deserves to be and not the lost cause he once was.
Parelli is not the only way - its just one way. Like all systems it can only be as good as the user, and of course things can be mis-interpreted. But, if you use your common sense, listen to what is really being said and most importanly listen to your horse its amazing what can be achieved. So, keep an open mind, find your own path, make your own journey but keep the good of the horse as your priority.
Weezy
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Right then, is anyone willing to lend me their level 1 pack so I can have a proper read?