What do you think about the new Club BS level?

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If you haven't seen it yet, it's on their website. You can register for £30, get a record of wins etc but no prize money and jumps from 70cm to 1m.

I just feel that this could be final death for the unaff shows. You don't normally win money at unaff anyway so if there are aff shows which do the same heights but can have there own chapionships (if not yet theres bound to be soon) which would you do.

It doesn't effect me anyway but just thinking if i bought a youngster would would i do.
 
I think its worth a shot!

Especially as adults can ride ponies, and not register them as horses.

As mine are all under 14.2h - we breed sports ponies, it will be fab to get them out, jumping, with recorded results, over properly built courses.
 
I think its worth a shot!

Especially as adults can ride ponies, and not register them as horses.

As mine are all under 14.2h - we breed sports ponies, it will be fab to get them out, jumping, with recorded results, over properly built courses.
 
Seems like a good idea in theory but how would that work in relation to winnings? Can a combination be out winning 1m regularly and then still be eligable for british novice if they register?

ETA i realise this can happen unaff too but presumably this is going to be bs show centres with bs course builders so regulated whereas an unaff 1m can be more like 2'9 in some places
 
Personally cant stand the BSJA doing below 1.10 - our local shows do 1.10 open (we're very fortunate - other local opens are 90cm - BN height, as they cant get the numbers.)

Then you would affiliate. Why do BSJA feel the need to kill all local shows. Money grabbers. Local show tend to only jump below the smallest BSJA class. Its basically forcing everyone to affiliate - which would be ok if you had hundreds on pounds a year to spend. For me my mum and sisiters to affiliate its £1000 straight away. BSJA just stick to the bigger jumps and keep everyone happy!
 
Sounds great to me, I can't afford to affiliate and all the unaff near me tend to be pretty poorly built courses so to pay £30 and jump unaff height but well built BS courses would be ideal!
 
Certainly something I'd look into, round my way we don't have trailblazers venues so I don't have that option. For £30 it would be worth it even if I only got to a handful of shows a year.

What I would be interested to now is how much class entry fees would be - likes of Patchetts etc are extortionate for BN/Disco etc so probably wouldn't bother if I was paying £15-20 per class with no prize money - would rather just go unaff locally.
 
ihatework said:
What I would be interested to now is how much class entry fees would be - likes of Patchetts etc are extortionate for BN/Disco etc so probably wouldn't bother if I was paying £15-20 per class with no prize money - would rather just go unaff locally.
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I think I read that class entry fees would be limited to £10 - I think that is very fair, and would rather pay £10 to jump a BSJA Club course, than £6-8 to jump a badly built unaff course.
 
It sounds a great idea

Especially people who are thinking of properly affiliating in the future can have the chance to Jump well built courses at a height that suits them

I have two jumping venues near me and neither do hardly any naff jumping In the summer so to have this would be great!
 
At face value it seems like a reasonable idea.

Will be interesting to see how many show centres run them though.

No prizemoney ain't great either....even unaff usually pays a tenner.

Wonder how it will work for full members too. If i have an unregistered horse will I have to pay £30 to register us as a combination even though I'm a full member? If so, waste of time as will just pay the full reg fee for
 
I think they are missing a trick and should do the classes up to 1.10 so that it gives more value for eventers.

Its £6 for a ticket, so after 5 classes or 2.5 shows you've broken even. It gives you a final to aim for, which hopefully won't be as expensive to enter as TB, and it includes adults on ponies.

It all depends on how many shows they have lined up, there has been little to no publicity about this and would you join when you have no idea on what shows there are and would you run a show when there are no members at present?

They should let you join at the venue, as you would have your horses passport with you already, and if you area member of BS you should not have to pay again.
 
dieseldog said:
I think they are missing a trick and should do the classes up to 1.10 so that it gives more value for eventers.

Its £6 for a ticket, so after 5 classes or 2.5 shows you've broken even. It gives you a final to aim for, which hopefully won't be as expensive to enter as TB, and it includes adults on ponies.

It all depends on how many shows they have lined up, there has been little to no publicity about this and would you join when you have no idea on what shows there are and would you run a show when there are no members at present?

They should let you join at the venue, as you would have your horses passport with you already, and if you area member of BS you should not have to pay again.
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This! I reckon we'd probably do this if enough venues round us did it- our local courses are usually up to height, but use jump4joy and have very limited fillers so it can get a bit dull! If they did it up to 1.10m, we'd probably spend the money as it would offer the progression we'd want this summer.
 
You can already be a BS member and still join but only if the combination doesn't have any winnings. So if you are doing BN alongside for instance and you get placed im assuming you cant enter any more of these club classes?
 
If it went up to 1.10m I would do it in a heartbeat, but as it is only up to 1m I am not interested, but I cannot warrant affiliating either ATM as I am not going out enough, and I kills me to jump on a ticket as you get jack for it...and there are no decent unaff around here that go over 1m either, so I am totally stuck!
 
Rambo, where are you with unaff prize money?! :eek: only thing unaffiliated prize money for round here is hunter trials.

I would say in our area outdoor unaffiliated so PC/RC shows has been pretty decimated over the last 5 or 6 years anyway when it used to be heaving and very competitive. You are lucky if they have enough to run a 2'9 and they rarely ever run higher. Lots of people do go up to cricklands several times a year though, I think because they know they will get a decent surface and a decent course.

There will always be people who want to sj over decent courses but that don't fit into the current BS framework and this may open it up to a few others :). Including me.. 14.2 18yo, we can do 90s but thats our limit :)
 
So, if you go around winning loads at 'club' level, do you rack up money that could put you out of BN, for example, or can you continue to compete at the lower 'normal' levels even if you've won loads of points at club level? I'm a little confused, but I agree, if it comes off, it will be the end of unaffiliated shows. Not sure whether it's a good or a bad thing, I think it would be nice to have something regulating unaff level shows, but would the unaff centres be able to run BS club shows?

J&C
 
I'd like to know whether joining as a Club member would make me ineligible to become a full member under the RC package. At the moment I'm putting off joining BS because if I wait until September, I haven't been a member for 3 years so can join using the RC package again, which is a very cheap way of doing full membership. I'd do the Club membership if there were enough classes, and then join as a full member after I'd jumped two Newcomers on my tickets they'd give me, but I wouldn't bother with the Club membership if a) there are no details on where and how often shows are on, and b) if it rendered me ineligible to pick up a full membership at RC rates.

People who are thinking of joining BS to compete in National classes like BN really need to be careful this doesn't mean they can't join using the cheap 'new member' rates I think!!
 
SpottedCat said:
People who are thinking of joining BS to compete in National classes like BN really need to be careful this doesn't mean they can't join using the cheap 'new member' rates I think!!
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That is a very good point spotted cat- I am going to ask my local tame BSJA rep to investigate! :D
 
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