What do you think i should do ? (long post sorry)

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I am having a dilemma as to whether I should keep and persevere or sell my 6 yo Hanoverian Gelding. I have had him since December 2008. Previous to this he has been SJ his BSJA record shows he has jumped 7 classes been placed 6 times has 5 double clears BN and 1 double clear Disco this was from march until nov 08. He won £93.

However his owner knew I was looking for a dressage horse at the time and thought I might be interested in him. I saw this horse move and thought he would make a cracking dressage horse. Tried him out and he was a laid back and sane 5 yo with fantastic movement I thought he had great potential so I bought him.

I did some schooling with him, established a really good mouth and his basics were looking nice. Took him to a training day and was very good. Decided to enter a Dressage show at the same location a couple of weeks later and he was very spooky although still got a percentage in the high 50’s despite doing half the test away from the white dressage borders and the judges car. The horse had shown no real spookiness prior to this.

The ridden work at home then appeared to consist of a bit of spooking here or there but was generally still progressing. Although as he is 17hh it did occasionally make me feel a bit scared.

I then had to move house which meant that I didn’t get to ride him very much until Jan this year. To ensure his education progressed I put him on full livery. He came back into work well was again a bit spooky to start with but this seemed to stop after he had got used to the new yard and again the schooling was coming on well. We had just started to ask for a bit more collection in his ridden work when he then decided his new trick would be to sometimes go disunited behind on the left rein when asking for more collection in the canter. He would do working canter all day long. So I had someone come and give him a ‘service’ re his back and muscles and he appeared to enjoy it. No problems noted. Had his saddle refitted and have placed a wool half pad under it to eliminate any possible saddle issues and gave him a week off in case he was feeling a bit sore from the work.

Now he only appears to really knuckle down and work if you put a jump up. He is happily popping 1.10 combos at home with a 17 yo lad on his back. However if you ask him to concentrate solely on his dressage he can start doing little bucks which scares me. It doesn’t bother my friend at all and she works though it for 10 mins and then we start to get some nice work out of him again he lengthens well and works on but what scare me is the bucking you go through to get him to concentrate. It is not at all big he barely gets off the ground but I personally don’t feel comfortable on him when he does it.

So do I persevere and hope he settles. I should probably say I think he will settle but im not sure if I have the capability or bravery to get him there. The 2 other people who have ridden him since we have moved are not bothered/worried/scared by his behaviour at all which I think means I am just a wimp. I also don’t jump anymore I used to Aff SJ and BE but those days are well and truly gone for me. I want a horse I can compete once or twice a month and who is prepared to do schooling 3 times a week and not be bored. Worried I have a SJ horse on my hands (with exceptional movement!) The pros seem to think he is just being a typical 6 yo warmblood seeing what he can get away with. Or should I sell? And if so what do you think he is he worth? He is by Wind Dancer so has the fabulous Weltmeyer in his breeding which explains the movement. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/wind+dancer4
HELP!?
 
If you're not having any fun then I don't think its harsh to move on. Horses are too expensive to have a permanently difficult relationship with. We all have difficult spells but it sounds like its gone past that point for you.
 
My first thoughts are that this is a big horse who is finding the 'dressage' hard work at this stage of his physical development. Collection is going to be really difficult for him I would have thought for at least another couple of years. Jumping on the other hand is easy - and he would appear to love it.

If pure dressage is your thing - then I'd probably sell him on.
 
That's a tricky one, I guess it depends if you can conquer your fear of his little bucks to work him through this?
Sounds like you're doing all the right things though in getting him checked out.
Could you maybe have some lessons on another horse to build up your confidence a bit, them some lessons on him?
Good luck! x
 
My first thoughts are that this is a big horse who is finding the 'dressage' hard work at this stage of his physical development. Collection is going to be really difficult for him I would have thought for at least another couple of years. Jumping on the other hand is easy - and he would appear to love it.

If pure dressage is your thing - then I'd probably sell him on.

Amymay> I agree i do think he is finding the dressage side of things more difficult, and i think he is really talented which is why i think he is such a lovely horse maybe i should persevere and give myself a kick up the bum to stop be such a fraidy cat but at the same time I am worried he just maybe finds the dressage boring and doesn't want to do it when jumping could be done. Wouldn;t it be easy if they could just say 'mum i find dressage boring and want to be a showjumper' or 'mum im finding this a bit hard stay with me and we will get there'
 
Could you maybe have some lessons on another horse to build up your confidence a bit, them some lessons on him?
Good luck! x

Thats not a bad idea. i do have my 16 yo baby sitting my 2 yo at the moment. i know i could get on him tomorrow and feel 100% safe. I would even jump him! I may have to arrange for another babysitter!
 
I think you need to be honest with yourself - if you are unnerved by his behaviour and do not enjoy riding him then it may be best to part company. As others have said it is probably just a phase my own horse went through a similar pattern of behaviour as a 5/6 yr old only he was really volitile, the difference was that whilst he was extremely frustrating I never felt actually scared of him and he eventually got through this tantrum behaviour and settled to his work. Even now as a 12yr old he can have the odd tantrum when things are hard. Whilst he also does pure dressage he will not tolerate excessive schooling twice a week is sufficent for him the other three days he hacks or jumps. Your horse seems to be of an age when he's testing things out but as others have said they are too expensive to keep and not enjoy and there is no shame in deciding that you and your horse want different things out of life if thats how it ends up.
 
If you're not having any fun then I don't think its harsh to move on. Horses are too expensive to have a permanently difficult relationship with. We all have difficult spells but it sounds like its gone past that point for you.

Its not that im not having fun because when he does produce the goods i feel good. I'm just wary of if this is a partnership which will not eventually work then i dont want to get even more attached to him only to have to part with him.
 
I think you need to be honest with yourself - if you are unnerved by his behaviour and do not enjoy riding him then it may be best to part company. As others have said it is probably just a phase my own horse went through a similar pattern of behaviour as a 5/6 yr old only he was really volitile, the difference was that whilst he was extremely frustrating I never felt actually scared of him and he eventually got through this tantrum behaviour and settled to his work. Even now as a 12yr old he can have the odd tantrum when things are hard. Whilst he also does pure dressage he will not tolerate excessive schooling twice a week is sufficent for him the other three days he hacks or jumps. Your horse seems to be of an age when he's testing things out but as others have said they are too expensive to keep and not enjoy and there is no shame in deciding that you and your horse want different things out of life if thats how it ends up.

You make a lot of sense. I just really love the little sod and think maybe he will stop with the little tantrums and he does settle but its the little tantrum you have to go trhough to get there that makes me feel uneasy, you are right it can un nerve me sometimes and i spend a lot of money on him for little reward at present. Any ideas as to what you think his value is?
 
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