What do you think if these feet? Also in vet

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I took some photos of Lottie's feet today as a record but also for your opinion!!

I've labled each pic. Should be 4 of each foot.

All feedback welcome. I've had her a week and she's had her shoes off about a month. She's a little pidgeon toed at times.

Thanks

Jx

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Erm well I don't normally click Photobucket links as they take forever to load on my phone but I tried for you and this link appears to want to load a pop up ad for something undesirable so I swiftly closed the window.
 
Off fore. The one with the cracks!!!

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I'm not clicking that link, not after the last one :biggrin3: . Thank goodness for virus protection software or whatever it is. I couldn't see the page it was failing to load but the web page address was bad enough.
 
How old is she? Looks like she may have been shod too young and her feet are quite small. The heels are contracted and the frogs underdeveloped. However, if she's young, I think they should improve considerably if she's kept barefoot for a couple of years.
 
Wagtail said:
How old is she? Looks like she may have been shod too young and her feet are quite small. The heels are contracted and the frogs underdeveloped. However, if she's young, I think they should improve considerably if she's kept barefoot for a couple of years.
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She's 4. She came over from Ireland a month ago and the girl I got her from removed some terrible looked home made all 4 different shoes.

Sugar_and_Spice said:
Oooh pics! I'm no expert but that hoof has under run heels.
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Neither am I and I spotted that too lol.

I'll post the other 2 feet.
 
She's got quite a bit of 'flare' is that the right word, on her fronts is that due to her confirmation? Will it improve? The vet last week seemed to think her cinfirmatiin would improve with a better balanced foot.

I've just started her in fast fibre, micronised linseed and formula 4 feet today, obviously building up very slowly. I've put rubber matting down as she scrapes with her off fore while eating to try to lessen the concussion in that toe at advice of farrier and she's having her teeth done next week. Upping the exercise in hand this week and once teeth sorted will get the Physio and then saddler out.

She's totally sound. Passed a 5 stage last week and the vet said she tried very hard to make her lame but she wasn't, which is good.
 
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Sugar_and_Spice said:
I'm not clicking that link, not after the last one :biggrin3: . Thank goodness for virus protection software or whatever it is. I couldn't see the page it was failing to load but the web page address was bad enough.
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Tbh photobucket is bloody awful isn't it? I had no such problems obviously but it has some random ads on there.

Hopefully you can now see the pics I was trying to load and can see they are, indeed, of my ponies feet!!!
 
Wagtail said:
How old is she? Looks like she may have been shod too young and her feet are quite small. The heels are contracted and the frogs underdeveloped. However, if she's young, I think they should improve considerably if she's kept barefoot for a couple of years.
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Everything that is said here. They look really pinched! Keep her barefoot :)

I would not say there is any flare in this hoof at all.
 
It might be deviation rather than flare, as the white line looks reasonably tight. Her fronts are particularly nasty :p, certainly be interesting to see them improve :)

More flare on the off fore but you can see the tighter growth above coming down.
 
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I'm no expert but have 3 barefoot, my first ever non shod ponies!

Looking at those feet they have been shod too young, they are very small! But without shoes that will continuously improve. You have an advantage that she is only four so can't have been shod too long (better than trying to get a horse barefoot that's been shod for 10yrs).

I bought my big boy (by big I mean14.2, the others are Shetlands! :P ) last August and his feet were a bit neglected. He was 5 and luckily never been shod. His feet were huge, farrier came to do the first trim and said he wouldn't even have shoes big enough! They were a bit chipped and cracked too but looked 100x better just after the first trim. After a few months his fronts both got a bit of flare on the insides but this has now grown out and his feet are the best I've ever seen, people always comment on how great they look! They have also grown down a bit smaller so they aren't quite so huge (were obviously just overgrown before). He is never footy on any ground and I never put anything on his feet.

If it helps to know at all, he is fed TopChop, barley and micronised linseed. I know people say grain is bad for barefoot but I don't have a problem. I make sure he gets a good amount of roadwork to keep his feet hard.

Good luck - it's worth it when you look at a nicely trimmed set of feet! And feels good to ride downhill with no slipping ;) The worst part is fending off those that are so anti barefoot... Best answer to the 'why don't you just put shoes on?' question is 'why?'.. They can never answer it!!

Keep us updated!
 
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thanks guys. I think with time and decent feed she'll grow some feet eventually lol.

I'm so new to this my old horse had shoes and never had any problems at all with his feet. I just had him shod every 5 weeks cos that's what you did.

I'm loving learning more about it all and I'm hopeful she'll have nice feet at some point. At least I have a supportive farrier.

The fronts are nasty though aren't they!!!
 
atlantis said:
The fronts are nasty though aren't they!!!
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Yip! Underrun heels, small, pinched frogs and one front also looks very boxy. Glad the shoes are off, sure she's very relieved! They'll drop Snd spread naturally now and if your farrier lowers the heel then they should get some stimulation and start to fix too :-) Good luck OP
 
I would only repeat what others have said about the overall state of those feet, but you also mentioned that she is pigeon toed.
A few months a go I bought an Arab who was extremely pigeon toed, and the previous owner said he had to be shod in front to reduce this..
Along with weak thrushy walls, convex soles, horribly contracted heels and teeny little frogs it was the least of his problems. I whipped his shoes off and he spent the first few weeks mincing around while his feet got used to the idea.
Now he's vastly improved, doesn't notice the stones, and interestingly is no longer pigeon toed...
 
LittleBlackMule said:
I would only repeat what others have said about the overall state of those feet, but you also mentioned that she is pigeon toed.
A few months a go I bought an Arab who was extremely pigeon toed, and the previous owner said he had to be shod in front to reduce this..
Along with weak thrushy walls, convex soles, horribly contracted heels and teeny little frogs it was the least of his problems. I whipped his shoes off and he spent the first few weeks mincing around while his feet got used to the idea.
Now he's vastly improved, doesn't notice the stones, and interestingly is no longer pigeon toed...
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Yes the vet that vetted her thought that once she grew decent feet her conformation would probably improve. She was completely sound on the vetting and when I tried her, but I think she could have a more forward free moving stride. I'm in no rush she is (for the best if my intentions, I know things change) with us for life so I'm in no rush. She'll have all the time she needs.
 
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