What Do You Think Of Roundings With Pelhams?

I was firmly in the "no roundings" camp and still am to some extent...

However I did have a horse who went better in a pelham and roundings than he did in anything else for jumping/hunting (was schooled in a snaffle). I think they can be okay for these types of occasions IF you know how to fit them correctly, i.e. make sure that when pulled back the curb cannot pass the 40 degree angle, ensuring the exact correct amount of poll vs curb pressure, and that you know if your hands are higher, the curb will come into action, if lower, you'll gain a more direct contact with the mouth. I also used an elastic curb strap rather than a chain, for a bit more "give".

Saying all of that, in general, I prefer double reins due to the fact that the curb rein need only be used when necessary.
 
I think roundings are fine and serve a purpose. The pelham bit can never have the refinement of a true bridoon and curb, so the effect of double reins is already partially negated anyway.

People talk about the correct use of double reins, which is true, but many I see using double reins don't have a clue about how to only use the curb rein when needed and get into unnecessary muddles. Not novice riders either!

If the horse goes well in a pelham with roundings, and many do, then I think it's better in the long run to keep a happy partnership.
 
QR I have chosen to use them for XC and the one time I went hunting as didnt know how he was going to be. I am very happy to use 2 reins when I use a double.

But they suited their purpose, we have some nappy complications XC so it has been easier for me not to have 2 reins at that time. That said I do want to try him in a kimblewick instead.
 
I rarely use a pelham for schooling but I have done in the past. My horse does not like the pelham if the curb is too tight, infact he gets really peed off. The pelham applies pressure to the poll (but varying levels depending on how much curb is being used). For schooling I find that it can tuck the head in, so rather than horse going from leg to hand in a proper outline, it can provide a false one.

I would not use it with roundings because you have much less control over the amount of curb being used and thus it is easier to get a false outline. I believe that riders should learn to ride and understand the use of 2 reins if they want to use the pelham at all.
 
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Do you really think that I care about what you think of my grammer?! Because I really dont. Haa i dont care if you dont think that i cant string a sentance together, Basically, i dont even know why I'm wasting my time. No one else seemed to have a problem with the question - as the question was in the title, its not my problem if you dont read the title is it? Why not go bother someone else about their text language!
 
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Poniess_x, please can you refrain from using text speak and try use correct spelling and punctuation - this is an informative forum and we try and keep general chitchat to the common room and soapbox.

The common room is the place for text speak if you so choose to use it.

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That was a bit unneccessary. I can't see anywhere that the OP used text speak? She's clearly just a kid so why not just ignore the post instead of being so rude? <<<Thankss:D


OP, if you can manage them, use two reins. Don't see the point of roundings, it just gives the horse mixed signals. I hunt my boy in a pelham with 2 reins, I rarely need the bottom rein but it's nice to know I have it when needed.

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<<<Thanks, helped alot[: I would prob be using them for hunting and such because I have a bit of trouble with brakes now &agen
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<<<Im going to ignore their pointless post tbhh, they wasted their time as I wasnt even using text speak:/

Thanks for all the posts everyone, they have all been really helpful !
 
I really don't like them. Why not use a kimblewick instead, at least that's designed for a single rein? Having said that I do appreciate that some horses go well in a pelham with roundings & I suppose there's no point in changing something that horse & rider are both happy with.
 
^^ Cheeerss, I was just thinking of using a pelham wiv roundings, but will do sum reaserch into kimblewicks aswell - Thanks!
 
Well JM07 I must be a lazy sod then because I used to used roundings with a vulcanised pelham as for fast work it was the only thing that worked a treat without me having to pull hard on the reins a gentle pull was enough. As long as you remember how strong they are and don't treat it like ordinary bit with one rein.
 
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