What do you think of this filly....?

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Well I think in fairness you need people who have an eye for this breed. They know how they grow and develop.

But my main concern is buying for someone with little experience. I know the wife has loads but why then a young filly of a breed that is a hot type. I don't mean that negatively, just they are really not first horses. So I'm puzzled why a person with so much experience would choose a) a horse so young b) a tricky breed. Again I'm not putting down Andies. I have no experience, but the experienced people with this breed say as much.

Terri
 
Doesn't float my boat either but then I have no idea what a "good" yearling PRE would look like. She seems long in the pasterns behind.
 
Looks nice to me. But I'm no expert when it comes to horses under 3 regarding conformation. She looks to have a nice sloping shoulder, and well set on neck. Nice head. Hocks look reasonable, front legs look good in most of the pics.
 
This would be the wife's fifth horse but first PRE, has always wanted a PRE and now has the time to bring on.... I have no experience with the breed either so not a good sounding board for the husband....

Not sure if I have made it clear but the filly will be for the wife!
 
Is it to be a surprise then?

To be honest if I were you I'd tell the husband it's a bad idea. Far nicer to surprised with a budget of x amount to buy a PRE SHE likes. Really.
 
Oh, I got it now. Duh!

I'm sure the experts on these horses will chime in. I just don't like to give opinions on something I have no experience with.

My only reason for chiming in was on the supposed "husband horse" thing. LOL!

FWIW, I'm FB "friends" with a guy in Spain that seems to breed only dilute horses but I don't think they are pure Andy, but some may be. A lot of their younger horses look similar and they turn in to gorgeous adults. But you know, that's hardly helpful.

I think HHO has some very experienced horse people in this area. If I was thinking of getting one I'd definitely feel comfortable with whatever they could tell me.

Terri
 
No advice on the filly as I'm not qualified BUT if you look through some of the tabs on that site you can see their previous sales as yearlings and then three year olds. Gawky looking leggy beasts have become absolute stunners!
 
I'm sure he's doing it for the very best of reasons, but I strongly feel he should let his wife choose the horse she wants .... Otherwise it could end up one big disaster!
 
oh bla bla bla ... I think that it is a wonderful and romantic thing to do! and all you lot sound like green eyed monsters, tbh! If his wife is experienced and has the time to put into a youngster and a youngster of a breed she's always wanted, whats the problem?

I am not an expert on the breed, but I think she looks like a good sort for a gawky yearling (and lets face it, 99.9% of yearlings look gawky!!)

I hope she loves her, I bet there will some tears when she is delivered and there will one husband in the world who will have earnt many, many brownie points!!!! Good for him, and good for her.

Now I'm off to try to talk my own hubby into buying me a surprise pure bred arab ...:D
 
i know nothing of the breed but if you look through at others youngsters for sale on the same site she is by far the cheapest-there must be a reason

personally i think she looks a lot lighter built than the rest and i dont like her neck-she just looks odd, but like i say i know nothing of the breed
 
JingleJools1234 said:
i know nothing of the breed but if you look through at others youngsters for sale on the same site she is by far the cheapest-there must be a reason

personally i think she looks a lot lighter built than the rest and i dont like her neck-she just looks odd, but like i say i know nothing of the breed
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I agree. If you are going to buy someone a surprise horse, you need to buy them the very best the breeder has, not the cheapest.
 
Hahaha, love it. Of course we all must be jealous. My husband and I have 5 brilliant horses. 3 we bred ourselves. I don't think anyone said don't buy. I think we've all claimed no experience with the breed and best to ask some of HHO's experts with this particular breed. That is all. But we turn that into jealousy? I don't know I'm pretty happy with my husband and horses.

Is this horse in question a good one for the surprise or not? That is the question. I corrected my response as I misread and thought it was a horse for hubby and he has no experience. But obviously after clarification I get the pic.

She is a lucky woman with what seems like a great hubby. I'm lucky enough to be in the same boat. Although I will admit hubby is forbidden from buying horses! LOL. He falls in love too easy. (With horses!)

Terri
 
If he has a slightly bigger budget I'm sure that he could do better. As you asked what we thought I would say - rather ugly head, long pasterns and not put together that well. I'm not an Andalusian expert, but as others have said, the good conformation ones are way more expensive. Sorry :o:o
 
To be honest she's not my cup of tea, as a yearling she will be gawky but for me (IMO) her frame is a little upside down, poor neck set, a straight hind leg, low tail set and long pasterns.
I love the idea of such a gift but I think I'd rather be allowed to choose my own, no guarantee she will 'click' with her this way and if she simply doesn't like her, then what? I'd be inclined to create my own personalised 'gift voucher' for her and let her source her own choice?
 
She's NOT a PRE she's a partbred and tbh I think you could probably get a purebred for not a lot more money, overpriced for this climate imho.

Aside from that, I do not like her front
 
Dam is not one of Millparks better ones but I do like the sire. She is partbred PRE will be on register 2. but doesn't say what the small injection is.

I think she's nice but a short neck. But just gawky looking. I think she will be quite nice myself once she grows into her frame.

If the wife wants a PRE there are many purebreds so keep looking on all the breeders websites. Some stunners out there for sale.

I am pleased that you are thinking of buying a British bred PRE. In my opinion they are overlooked and dismissed as they grow a wooly coat and don't look as nice as the super shiny equivalents from Spain. Everything looks better in the sunshine!
 
joeanne said:
Not in love with those pasterns.....
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Spanish horses generally grow into their long bones and you will be surprised how big boned they become!

Also, those patterns are good for all that collected work they love to do :)
 
Baubly said:
To be honest she's not my cup of tea, as a yearling she will be gawky but for me (IMO) her frame is a little upside down, poor neck set, a straight hind leg, low tail set and long pasterns.
I love the idea of such a gift but I think I'd rather be allowed to choose my own, no guarantee she will 'click' with her this way and if she simply doesn't like her, then what? I'd be inclined to create my own personalised 'gift voucher' for her and let her source her own choice?
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I think this sums it up.
A "gift voucher" is the way to go. Even a casual "what do you think of this baby" might give more insight.
I admit this one is not one I would want for myself as if I wanted a Spanish horse I would be looking at purebreds and not part breds.
 
ihatework said:
I'm sure he's doing it for the very best of reasons, but I strongly feel he should let his wife choose the horse she wants .... Otherwise it could end up one big disaster!
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Absolutely!! I would forgive my husband if he bought me a horse I was aleady lusting after (maybe!!)

If he wants to surprise her, he should take her to see this horse - and then ask her if she likes it! A youngster is a lot of work and you need a horse that 'speaks' to you and makes you WANT it!
 
I'm rubbish at judging conformation unless something is obvious to me, so couldnt' comment on that. But if my OH were going to buy me a horse, then I don't think I would want a surprise, unless it were a horse he knew I particularly liked - would definitely want to choose something myself.
 
As an experienced horsewoman who has lusted after her very own baby PRE since she was knee high to a grasshopper I would say that if my OH bought me this horse as a present I would be thrilled, but she is not what I would pick myself. Mainly because she is not a full PRE, which for me kind of defeats the object! I agree with other poster who said make a trip to a decent stud with a few for sale in your budget and take her there, if there's any she likes then you can buy knowing it's the right horse.
 
I actually bought my PRE with some expert help by someone who knows the breed well. I had already been working with them but never bought a youngster before.

I think it's really important to have that professional eye. The are distinct "types" of Spanish Horse. Mine is the baroque type which is what I asked for. She may have been hankering after a PRE but she may have her own ideas of what "type". Some people don't like the baroque type and prefer the taller types so its best to go and see them at the stud.

There, you can see mum, dad, grandma, grandad, aunts, cousins etc etc and get a good idea of what you will get in few years time.

Also, a good PRE is not "hot" is the way that some people think is unhandleable! They are kind, willing, and are good natured. The UK breders are very good at breeding for temperament. At least, that is what I have found.

If in doubt, call one of the lovely board members of BAPSH or ask questions on the Facebook page of the same name.

Good luck! :)
 
Maybe contact the breeder and list what you are looking for in a PRE. I was actually looking at this stud earlier in the year and there were loads of good reviews saying how helpful the breeder is. She may point you towards something else she had bred which is more suitable.
 
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