What do you think of this horse??

If he is your type that's what matters , whether he is anybodies else cup of tea that's not important , he looks a sweet chap

take your instructor along with you so she can ride him too, give you a second opinion,

needs some more muscle,
schooling etc
needs some groceries.

he is standing on a slight angle,
also the fact the head area is slightly blurry would suggest he moved his head when the picture taken , which could be why others think he looks awkward.



If you like him go see him get him vetted.:)
 
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You said you want to view him x does this mean you havent at all yet? x just wondered as he may be advertised well or badly, he could look totally different.....if you want to have a look, go for it. You got nothing to lose by looking but dont be sold into it by what your told about him.....especially if its not a well-known (for the right reasons) dealer x

Chances are he was bought from auction, dealer probs knows very little about him and wants him in and out as quick as possible x How much is your budget if you dont mind me asking? x
 
"Chances are he was bought from auction, dealer probs knows very little about him and wants him in and out as quick as possible"

How do you know this from one picture? Have to say it really annoys me the way people come down so hard on dealers. I have bought some lovely horses off reputable dealers and some real dogs off private people. At least with a dealer you have more of a come back. Private people can be very economical with the truth and at least with a dealer you know "the real" reason why the horse is for sale it is their living.

He looks like he could be a nice chap with the correct work and feed. Hard to say from one photo, especially not a particularly good one.
 
I've just brought a very nice horse from a local dealer with a very good reputation. Mine was a chunky hunter but I must say he had a lot of horses in like him and in very sumilar condition. He does bring a lot over from Ireland. Just make sure you try him as many times as you can, do as much as you can and then get him vetted. And good luck x
 
£3k is still a good budget but i wouldnt want to be paying that for him x

KP31, i agree not all dealers are bad, i worked with one before and he had decent horses and nasty ones. I have also bought horses and my first pony came off a reputable dealer who was one of the best ponies i ever had.....i'm not saying all dealers are bad, as they aren't ....not all horses are genuine from private sellers either......but i meant that she would be aware x Dealers don't always have the same history of a horse either x I'd 100% buy off a dealer or a private person again, i'd use my instinct and experience to see the horse from my own point of view though and not rely on what anyone told me about it....good or bad! x

Take someone with you as a second opinion but you have nothing to lose by looking x :D
 
I actually quite like him but do think he will grow quite a bit when he has some decent food in him. He is very like my boy who came off dealers yard as thin as a hat rack but is a lovely, kind person.

Yes their are a few cofirnation faults, but a lot of them are highlighted/exagerated by the lack of muscle/weight.

I suppose the key question is who is the dealer?!

I would also comment that at the moment you could get something with a 'history' from a private seller for under 3k at the mo.
 
FrecklesMum said:
I actually quite like him but do think he will grow quite a bit when he has some decent food in him. He is very like my boy who came off dealers yard as thin as a hat rack but is a lovely, kind person.

Yes their are a few cofirnation faults, but a lot of them are highlighted/exagerated by the lack of muscle/weight.

I suppose the key question is who is the dealer?!

I would also comment that at the moment you could get something with a 'history' from a private seller for under 3k at the mo.
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The dealer appears to have a good reputation. :-) & I have looked everywhere - people are expecting way to much money for older horses, I would not pay 3k plus for a 15 year old plus however safe in this present climate as they are more likely to have health issues not covered by insurance. If anyone knows of a nice neddie in the Notts area, let me know :)
 
I find very few redemming features in his conformation- quite frankly, I wouldn't buy a horse put together like that. Combined with the strong bit, lack of muscle, dodgy history.... I'd pay no more than meat money for him
 
Why are you only looking for 16.2 and above? Something that size playing up is a different kettle of fish to something a bit smaller, say 15hh. Just think you're narrowing your market slightly.
 
coralwings20 said:
he is a 6 year old ISH & he is a horse that I want to view. I am struggling to find a suitable horse & he bits the bill in most ways :-) thanks for the quick response :)
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well if you like him and he's what you want then that's all that matters. I actually think that with correct feeding and work he should fill out into a nice looking horse as at the moment he's a bit on the lean side with no muscle.
 
That first photo doesn't look especially recent, given the amount of foliage on the trees. I'd want up to date photos of him stood on the flat if I was interested. Having said that he's not my sort of horse anyway, I think there are far nicer ones about and your budget isn't small at all.
 
The only way to find out is go and have a look.

When you say what do you think of this horse? My initial reaction was that he reminds me of my boy when I first got him, poor, high withered, weedy neck.....

My boy though was 18 and an ex polo pony, who came to me very underweight. This one is 6 so you have every chance of improving him. The second lot of pics are nice - he has a nice kind face. My boy is also ridden in a gag - you will quickly get too fast and not be able to stop otherwise, but if you have the right bit (we have managed to go from a very long american gag to a dutch....) you can hold him so you don;t get too fast. He has always been a lively ride but is safe. To see his tack - gag and martinegale, you might think otherwise.

I think he is overpriced.
 
TheMule said:
I find very few redemming features in his conformation- quite frankly, I wouldn't buy a horse put together like that. Combined with the strong bit, lack of muscle, dodgy history.... I'd pay no more than meat money for him
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This. Given what you're in the market for, I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. With the budget you have, I'm sure you could get something much better. I wouldn't discount a dealer necessarily either but get ecommendations first. How about these:

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=103940

http://www.horsehunter.co.uk/horses-for-sale-all-rounders/kind-and-easy-to-do-in-all-ways/a91200/

http://www.horsehunter.co.uk/horses-for-sale-all-rounders/stunning-mare/a90954/

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=100218

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=97021
 
PoppyAnderson said:
This. Given what you're in the market for, I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. With the budget you have, I'm sure you could get something much better. I wouldn't discount a dealer necessarily either but get ecommendations first. How about these:

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=103940

http://www.horsehunter.co.uk/horses-for-sale-all-rounders/kind-and-easy-to-do-in-all-ways/a91200/

http://www.horsehunter.co.uk/horses-for-sale-all-rounders/stunning-mare/a90954/

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=100218

http://horsegossip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allround&action=display&thread=97021
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oooh like 4th one down (horse gossip website). Agree the one in your topic is waaaaay overpriced if pushing 3K! But if you like him go and have a look! He looks a nice enough chap and every pony deserves someone to love them! My boy is perfect to hack, jump etc and was gifted to me from a racing yard when he was 14- so freeeeee!!! :D
 
I think he could turn out to be a nice sort.

He's poor at the moment though. What are they asking for him??

Go have a look with an experienced eye, and go from there. Let us know how you get on.
 
FrecklesMum said:
I would also comment that at the moment you could get something with a 'history' from a private seller for under 3k at the mo.
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Mildred said:
That first photo doesn't look especially recent, given the amount of foliage on the trees. I'd want up to date photos of him stood on the flat if I was interested. Having said that he's not my sort of horse anyway, I think there are far nicer ones about and your budget isn't small at all.
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Spring Feather said:
Are there papers to prove this? He looks like an ex-racer to me and if the price is reflective of that then he could possibly end up being a useful sort.
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Ditto all of these. I also agree with those who said with the correct feeding, work and plenty of time he will come around, but I definitely would not pay anywhere near 3k for him.
 
I think the one on horse gossip looks much nicer and is a very reasonable price. Keep looking, for the budget you have you should be able to get something significantly better. This time last year I went and looked at a horse that was within your budget, about 12, and had a BE record, upto BE100 as well as unaffiliated experience SJ, showing and WH. The market hasn't improved any since then so you should be able to find something pretty decent for your money. If you are looking at horses that are green, in poor condition and are basically unproven then I don't think you should be paying more than £2k in this market, and if it has a dodgy history, is an ex-racer or any vices or conformational defects probably less. Obviously well bred well started youngsters with potential and a history may well go for more but that isn't what this chap is.
 
It amazes me that people try to sell horses with such dreadful pictures!

I don't think the photo does him justice at all, or at least I hope it doesn't. The bit does look a tad 'brakesy' and he looks really poor in his coat, although again that could be the photo.

PLEASE be careful. An acquaintance bought a horse a while ago from a dealer. Horse was vetted and thought to be 'a bit poor' and in need of some strength work. Horse turned out to have kissing spines, hence poor condition and way of going.

I'm not blaming the dealer for the above - I wasn't there when the animal was purchased so I don't know how much the dealer knew about it or even how long thay'd had it. My point is that sometimes there are good, clinical reasons for horses looking poor and being weak, and they're not always obvious with vetting or curable with work.
 
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If safety and fun is so high on your list then I would not buy a horse that needs feeding up as you will not know what you will end up with when the horse is feeling well. Also I think you would be looking at at least 6 months to start to train and muscle this horse up. There are lots of things which combine to make a poor picture so I would not be over keen!
 
Having seen the other pics of him the more I don't think I would go and see him and if he's nearing £3k then definately not! As others have said you have to be very careful about buying from a dealer some dealers are fab but a horse in poor condition and with a dealer coupled with a strong bit doesn't sound like a good plan if you want something safe and sensible.

You may well find he's a fruit cake when he's in good condition or he might just be a horse that finds it very hard to keep weight on. Which means he's going to cost a lot in feeding and you may well have the problem of you need to feed him to get condition but then he's a nutcase because your feeding him up. You could get a really lovely horse for under £3k where abouts are you? There's a south west group on facebook which has some nice safe and sensible horses on there for sale at reasonable prices. Also horse quest is a good website to look on occasionally theres some nice horses at reasonable prices.

I would also look at some smaller horses. I had my heart set on a 16.1HH+ ex racer when I was looking for my boy and I ended up with a 15.1HH Andalusian! It doesn't hurt to try a few different sized horses/different breeds at least go and see them give them a go if you don't like them then thats fine at least you can rule them out. In the end when I was looking for my boy I decided that I needed to look for a horse capable of doing the job I wanted and the size and breeding was unimportant.

Your best off being patient and finding the right one rather than rushing into something. It's very easy to do and I was getting rather impatient when I was looking. But it will beso worth it when you findthe right horse for you. I also found that every time I got my hopes up it would turn out to be no good. When I went to see my boy I thought here we go again another waste of time and I was pleasantly surprised!

Good luck and keep his posted on what you decide. :)
 
Well, you asked for opinions and you certainly got them!

I would go and see him, nothing to lose. I think he has a kind eye and his head and neck will look better when he's put on a bit of weight and grown into them. He's no show horse, but if he's a safe and sensible hack and that's what you want i don't see a problem with his looks.

You'll get a gut feel when you see him and any decent horse vet will tell you at vetting if he isn't up to the job physically.

Good luck - let us know how you get on.
 
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