What happened to Ellen Whitaker?

I don't know anything about her. (Probably like most of the posters on this thread)

I think it's shameful how some people have talked about her. She's named in the title of the thread. How would YOU feel if you read this about yourself?!

She probably has read it by now, things have a habit of being seen by people who know someone and they can't help but pass it on.

Unpleasant really and unnecessary.
 
I seem to remember she drove her landy home from a party, got half way home and realised that drink driving wasn't sensible so drove her car back to the party to get a taxi home and got caught on the way back to the party.

I think that was her. If so then she has earned her blonde hair lol!
 
Some very harsh comments about a young lady who has in the past made some mistakes (. Don't we all. A right of passage) As long as she has learnt from these and moved onwards that's all that can be expected.
I always felt she is at slanted rider who as some people have alluded too,had successfully competed some tricky horses.
I have always ascribed to the saying : a good rider can make a bad horse look good,and a bad rider can make a good horse look bad. I know I could not tackle the courses and fences Ellen has jumped. It's so easy to criticise from the comfort of IT.
She did tide Locarno at Hickstead this year while juggling the challenges of motherhood.
 
Booboos said:
Your post is a triumph for feminists everywhere, you should be proud for shaming the blond, pierced, sparkly tart!
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Well said; couldn't agree more! As soon as I read those comments I thought it would be a great example to show my A Level English Language students for how women in professions are always judged by their appearance and 'sexual' conduct...
 
You know for all those on here saying that it's horrible for people to be bullying Ellen you are doing that to those who don't agree with her appearance. Both sides frankly need to get over it and move on as those who don't care are now bullying those who do and are making fun of them which is rude as well.

People are welcome to their opinion and some religions believe that the way Ellen acts is wrong. Publicly damning her is wrong but publicly damning those that believe that is also wrong. Why not just put it to one side and get over it? Neither side is right I am afraid.
 
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You know for all those on here saying that it's horrible for people to be bullying Ellen you are doing that to those who don't agree with her appearance. Both sides frankly need to get over it and move on as those who don't care are now bullying those who do and are making fun of them which is rude as well.

People are welcome to their opinion and some religions believe that the way Ellen acts is wrong. Publicly damning her is wrong but publicly damning those that believe that is also wrong. Why not just put it to one side and get over it? Neither side is right I am afraid.
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And you just slated both "sides" just to complete the irony.
 
rachk89 said:
You know for all those on here saying that it's horrible for people to be bullying Ellen you are doing that to those who don't agree with her appearance. Both sides frankly need to get over it and move on as those who don't care are now bullying those who do and are making fun of them which is rude as well.

People are welcome to their opinion and some religions believe that the way Ellen acts is wrong. Publicly damning her is wrong but publicly damning those that believe that is also wrong. Why not just put it to one side and get over it? Neither side is right I am afraid.
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I am not sure what Ellen has done that some religions think is wrong but I'll take a wild guess that she goes to parties in short shirts and did not go to her marriage bed a virgin .
Well no I don't welcome people who think like that .
No reason why I should as a women why should I give any value what so ever to silly views that make me a second class citizen just because of an accident of nature .
 
I don't know her, but have been to some shows where she was riding her youngsters etc and she keeps her self to her self.
To the original question... what happened to Ellen.... She has one young kid, is pregnant. She was in the process of rebuilding a string of horses that takes time. Has no one else noticed that most (most!) event riders come round in cycles of good horses. They are like buses...
 
Geez, this has become one of those sad and weird threads on the forum!

Just thought I'd comment that Ellen Whitaker was the first rider whom I've ever seen to grab onto her horse's mane whilst going over the jump. I'm pretty sure she did very well one year at a show like Olympia and they spent quite a bit of time commenting on it whilst showing it in in ultra-slow motion on the telly. I thought it was a very interesting style of jumping and it seems to come very naturally to her, and didn't appear to hurt the horse in the mouth at all.

I've lost track with most celebrities/famous sports people so I'm in no position to comment on her personality, but I do still have images in my mind of her with an easy smile and being nice to her horses. Wherever she is and whatever she's doing, I wish her well.
 
rachk89 said:
People are welcome to their opinion and some religions believe that the way Ellen acts is wrong. Publicly damning her is wrong but publicly damning those that believe that is also wrong. Why not just put it to one side and get over it? Neither side is right I am afraid.
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Eh, I think Ellen is entitled to wear what she likes, and enjoy her body as she likes. That is the basic right of the matter. I can't believe anyone feels they have the right to judge her because of their religion? That is so bizarre!!

For some one to make a moral judgement on her about something that doesn't affect them in the slightest is completely wrong and very sad. Says more about the judgemental person than it does about Ellen, just very sad and weird.
 
Clearly my post has roused many opinions.

I would have loved to be born in life of someone like Ellen Whitaker or Emily King, what a Silver Spoon. Others have to rely achieving from nothing, which makes it the richer journey.

I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
 
Can't believe the jealousy in the posts on here !
In answer to the op question, is she got married moved to Spain, has a family increasing in size, all with her husband ..... How tarty!

If she was not a very attractive talented young lady would anyone have cared what she got up to during adolescence.
 
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That's exactly what it is - jealously (in one form or another). Present a group of women with a younger, more attractive woman who can do things they can only dream of and watch the claws come out. How sad.
 
Illusion100 said:
Clearly my post has roused many opinions.

I would have loved to be born in life of someone like Ellen Whitaker or Emily King, what a Silver Spoon. Others have to rely achieving from nothing, which makes it the richer journey.

I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
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Are you one of those strange people who believe that a foetus chooses what family it is going to be born into? That it is a child's fault if their parents do or don't support them to the best of their ability. I grant you that some parents, mostly mothers, can go over the top and seem to want to live their own lives through their children, and this may be of no benefit to anyone, but I think most people would agree that given the choice, kids would rather accept every scrap of help from their family than be left like so many children who came along because their parents' only skill was having sex and didn't have the brain power to use contraception , and are left like weeds in the field to grow up with no love or guidance.
 
Blimey.... been away for a while, and have come back ... and may go well go again. That vile post.... nothing changes in the horsey world, does it. Jealousy, bitterness, cruelty. Could not read past it..
 
rachk89 said:
You know for all those on here saying that it's horrible for people to be bullying Ellen you are doing that to those who don't agree with her appearance. Both sides frankly need to get over it and move on as those who don't care are now bullying those who do and are making fun of them which is rude as well.

People are welcome to their opinion and some religions believe that the way Ellen acts is wrong. Publicly damning her is wrong but publicly damning those that believe that is also wrong. Why not just put it to one side and get over it? Neither side is right I am afraid.
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You are using religion to defend the vitriol directed at one person who is not here to defend herself?

Really is that what religion is, glad I'm not particularly religious then because I am a much nicer, forgiving and more tolerant in the first place person than you are by the looks of things.
 
Pushed the red button. Certain people should be ashamed of themselves, but of course they will justify their words. They always do.

I do not belong here, i been the victim of serious bullying on yards, and am in the process of writing an e book on what has happened to me. Why would i want to come on a forum and read bullying posts ?

Thank god i am now safely away from the reach of these idiots.

Ps I hope the family thinks about a libel suit... hho should have stamped this out a long time ago.
 
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You've reported this post? Wow. There are a couple of differences of opinion on this thread, one person has given her draconian views and been shot down for it. There's no need for reporting. But, hey, at least it's another chance for you to bang on about your ebook on bullying.
 
Illusion100 said:
Clearly my post has roused many opinions.

I would have loved to be born in life of someone like Ellen Whitaker or Emily King, what a Silver Spoon. Others have to rely achieving from nothing, which makes it the richer journey.

I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
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A little compassion goes a long way :) It's so easy to judge, but generally people are just getting on with their lives as best they can. regardless of the circumstances they were born into. Some people are born into the public eye and will be subject to scrutiny and opinion - that may open some doors, but it may also increase the pressure on that person. The rest of us are lucky that we are anonymous and our slip ups won't be plastered all over the internet for comment, and our characters derived (by people who have never met us) from a few juicy headlines.

I don't think that we can judge the richness of a persons journey through life merely by looking at their public image. We don't (and can't) know their situation because we're not inside it. Just because someone appears to have been born with a silver spoon, or to have had everything handed to them on a plate doesn't mean they aren't struggling/trying to make sense of some aspect of their existence. Appearances can be very deceptive :)
 
I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
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Have you ever thought about the other side of being born into a famous family? The pressures, stresses and so on of having to match up? You'd probably think that was hardly something to complain about, but just try and imagine how it is when everything you do is compared to others who are you relatives by accident of birth.
I don't think anything in life is quite as black and white as you obviously do.
 
Illusion100 said:
Clearly my post has roused many opinions.

I would have loved to be born in life of someone like Ellen Whitaker or Emily King, what a Silver Spoon. Others have to rely achieving from nothing, which makes it the richer journey.

I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
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Well I'm sure most people on this forum would have loved to have been born into that position, as would I, but in the case of Ellen in particular she has a lot of pressure underneath her with this 'family name' business and I don't believe that can be nice, especially when she's been in the limelight from such a young age. You were not born into this position so you have no idea what this position is actually like, it's hardly surprising a young person can go off the rails as is seen in many young celebs when they are put under such immense pressure... plus Ellen has never known a life any different and I'm sure at times she has probably felt very trapped which is a major contributor to depressive tendencies... you may feel trapped because you don't have the capacity to be in Ellen's position which you dream of but Ellen has never had the capacity to be able to escape from her own position... these are actually very similar positions, just different contexts... you have to disregard the concept of culture and your cultural difference and stop the mentality of 'well these people have x and y, the top goals of our culture, so that instantly means their life is infinitely better than mine' and realise that we are all living creatures whose brains essentially function the same and the feeling of being trapped or under pressure is a major contributor to poor mental health. And I'm pretty sure, given this position, people saying because of it she didn't 'truly earn it' just makes her feel even worse, as I'm sure she'd be aware of it already. She doesn't get this 'richer' journey you so seem to gloat about.

Slagging her off for how she looks or chooses to dress is just a really immature thing to do, it just shows that really you don't have any reason to insult her and makes it really obvious that you are jealous. I have a feeling that if she were not an attractive woman jealous people would be slagging her off for being ugly, so she can't really win :D

I also thought in your first post where you said her family didn't agree with her blonde hair etc so they disowned her, that you meant it factually :confused3: now I don't know if that was just a dig at her or not... :roll eyes:
But yeah, again, if that's true then being in that position certainly isn't being in dreamland. And if it's not that's a deeply personal insult.

I don't intend to be insulting, I just want more people to look at the bigger picture and feel a bit of empathy. It's easy to condemn what you don't understand!! I also believe that if you are going to pick fault you should criticise someone's behaviour, not their appearance, because behaviour is not a fixed quality in a person and to pick on something that someone cannot escape from or change is just plain nasty behaviour of the lowest kind.
 
I think lilac willow and fatpiggy make interesting and insightful posts.

All I would like to add is this; in many ways I was born with this silver spoon of which some so scornfully mention. I'm now 27, my mother is dead from cancer. So is my uncle and my brother in law hung himself shortyl after. I have no grandparents left, my father has run away from the pain to be a near hermit in new zealand. My sister is a manic depressive.

I am not intending to be woe is me. And I am certainly not inviting sympathy. What I am doing, is asking if you think that silver spoon served me very well?

The world truly is "not so black nor white". Everyone had troubles. Some of us are lucky enough to be able to suffer them privately.
 
You'd think some famous riders were the equivalent of Hannibal Lecter the way they're picked to pieces on this forum. Not human beings like the rest of us.
If you know the person you're criticising personally, why not discuss your issue with them. If you don't know them, what on earth makes it your business to slag them off like this?
 
Illusion100 said:
Clearly my post has roused many opinions.

I would have loved to be born in life of someone like Ellen Whitaker or Emily King, what a Silver Spoon. Others have to rely achieving from nothing, which makes it the richer journey.

I have no respect for anyone relying on a family name to be a celebrity, without truly earning it.

If I've come across as sexist/judgemental etc, so be it.
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Sorry - am PMSL.

Your posts are hilarious... you possibly are trying to make a point, but it is a little difficult to take them seriously.

Good luck and all the best... we all make our own fortune at the end of the day regardless of where we start out. And whatever Ellen may have been up to, or not, in the past I wish her all the best for the future too.

Life is too short to worry about what other people are getting up to.
 
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