What happened to the Collateral Club

Well,my boy Bailey W went to Rockley Farm and is now barefoot and sound, and is hunting again. He had a lateral collateral ligament strain, he was lame for 2 years, no amount of remedial shoeing of fancy shoes sorted him, or Tildren, IRAP or all the joint medications he had. Simple landing heel first with no shoes did the job, he's happy and sound and can go out in the field without coming in on three legs (he was box rested for 9 months to try and get him sound!), so we are a total success and that is down to one lady, Nic Barker, without Nic, Bailey would not be here today.Plus his way of going has improved no end he floats along........lol.x

P.S i still want to be part of the club though, because the route i took maybe the answer for others that are not getting sound horses the conventional way.xxxxxxxx
 
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Jacob went barefoot 18 months ago and is sounder but not sound.

Sadly :rolleyes: he always had good feet/balance so there wasnt much that could be done different.He is going on loan as a companion and lighht hack and we shall see how it goes but he will never return to full work
 
I'm still here!! Struggling through. After shockwave and platelet therapy in August 2010 my horse underwent a long period of box rest, in hand walking, ridden walking exercise and then started some trotting exercise at the beginning of this month. Things were going well until a visit to the vets his week and he's trotting up slightly short on it. Although it does appear he's got a slight swelling and hardish lump low down on the inside of his cannon bone on the same leg as the collateral damage so we're wondering if he's recently knocked himself and there is a splint coming. I'm devastated at the moment, not sure what to do for the best :(
 
Darkly_Dreaming_Dex said:
Jacob went barefoot 18 months ago and is sounder but not sound.

Sadly :rolleyes: he always had good feet/balance so there wasnt much that could be done different.He is going on loan as a companion and lighht hack and we shall see how it goes but he will never return to full work
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Bailey always had good feet and balance too, but he was landing toe first or flat instead of heel first, when he finally started landing heel first he came sound. That seemed to be what worked. He is back in full competion work and out hunting again which he loves.

Good luck with your boy.xxxxxxxxxxx
 
After the conventional treatment that the vets prescribed my horse did appear to come sound although i though he never moved that great, but the vet said he was sound. He still won at local level in showing and was placed in dressage. i was told he would'nt be able to jump again. I always had him shod every 4 weeks to maintain the correct foot balance, and i agree with Lainey's quote -

Lainey123 said:
Bailey always had good feet and balance too, but he was landing toe first or flat instead of heel first, when he finally started landing heel first he came sound. That seemed to be what worked. He is back in full competion work and out hunting again which he loves.

I took a huge leap of faith after reading all the barefoot threads on here and researched the internet about it. Although i got a lot of 'stick' at the yard and was regarded as a bit 'cookoo' for doing it, none of them can dispute the positive changes in my horses feet - and he's a tb type too !! Everyday i am amazed at his feet and the improvements. i have even started to jump him again and he's loving it. I won't pretend its easy and i say you have to be dedicated to carry it out correctly - its time consuming. There's many a rainy day when all i want to do is pop in the indoor school and do 3/4hr schooling but i have to get my waterproofs on and hack out for an hour or two !! not really complaining - how can you !
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Mine was never MRI'd so we don't know if it was soft tissue damage causing his lameness. But I think it is very likely, because he was sound at ten weeks and there is just no way that the bone damage to the navicular which was on the xrays can have gone away that quick, is there ?? And research has shown that damage to the navicular bone usually comes after damage to the Deep Digital Flexor Tendon. So mine probably wasn't really a member of the Collateral Club - but sound barefoot, jumping and qualified for a dressage champs this weekend after adequan, tildren, HLA and bar shoes all failed. :)
 
but sound barefoot, jumping and qualified for a dressage champs this weekend after adequan, tildren, HLA and bar shoes all failed.
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Result. If only people put the barefoot at the top of teh list and tried these things if barefoot failed, rather than seeing barefoot as a "last resort"....
 
Thanks to all of you who responded. There seems strong support for going barefoot, but I am unsure that my TB would cope. If he loses a front shoe he hobbles and his feet are poor quality. Anyway fingers crossed - he had 15 weeks box rest beginning mid June 2010 then turned out (briefly - long story!) in a small pen then out with his pals. No other treatment. Has been hacked out at walk for since December and we are now trotting in straight lines for short periods. When do you stop being neurotic and watching for head bobbing!
 
You will have to be careful about what surfaces you expose him to but his feet will improve beyond anything you can currently imagine, truly. Take lots of photos, the difference in weeks will shock you. The reason he hobbles now is because his feet are so weak. Don't worry, they won't fall off :) Keeping him without shoes will make them much, much stronger. Meanwhile, protect him from surfaces that are too difficult for him, take it slowly and you will be likely to be able to get him sound again. Good luck.
 
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When do you stop being neurotic and watching for head bobbing!
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Bless you, i know how you feel. I stopped looking for head bobbing after he came back from Rockley Farm. He is the soundest he has ever been. He's a HanovarianxTB and at 17hh and 620kgs not the lightest, but his feet are beyond recognition. It was the best money ever spent, after 2 years of lameness i never in a million years thought that he would ever be sound. Good luck with your boy, look into barefoot, for me it was a last resort and i so wish it hadn't been. Despite years of rehab and all the shoes under the sun, he was always slightly off, only ever on a circle, but still off. Good luck with what you do, but don't dismiss barefoot, i did initally but totally converted now.xxxxxxxxxxx
 
Sillyoldfool said:
T When do you stop being neurotic and watching for head bobbing!
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In my case never, but then I'm totally neurotic, I also worry if he's not standing square and stare at his feet far more than is strictly healthy. But I also relax enough to jump him and gallop him round the fields.

Mine had damage to collateral ligament, ddft and DSIL in both feet and like Lainey's went to Rockley to be rehabbed barefoot. He's a tb, ex racer and was less than 2 when he went into training and was shod. He was so footy if he lost a shoe that I bought hoof boots just to transport him when I had to take his shoes off to have the MRI done. He didn't respond to conventional treatment and after 18 months was lamer than at the start.

It's been a year now since his shoes came off and his feet are unrecognisable. If you go to Rockley's blog look for Frankie to see how much a tb's feet can change if given a chance.

Fingers crossed your boy stays sound but if he does have a relapse it's an option to bear in mind.
 
I have spent most of the day at the vets with my horse being nerve blocked and xrayed after which he had ultrasound. The thought is that he has collateral ligament damage - so the next procedure recommended is mri and more xrays without shoes. Can anyone please tell me a bit about Rockley Farm, how much is the treatment and is it something the insurance co would cover?
 
Contact Nic. The site is rockleyfarm.co.uk. She will talk you through what she can do for your mare and the insurance situation which differs between companies.
 
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