what is a British sports horse?

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does anyone know what a British sports horse is? or what breeds make one? similarly to and Irish sports horse that is a ID X TB maybe? i saw something say about a welsh sec D X TB makes one but im not sure how true that is? anyone able to shed some light?
 
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I think it is a type rather than an actually breed cross. The insurance company doesn’t recognise the Scottish sports horse so it is just a sports horse.
 
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From what I know, it's any horse born in Britain with some TB, but even then, they can be classed as so with no record of breeding.

It's kind of like 'cob type' on passport with no breeding - it's basically, God knows but looks like a cobby thing? I think that's basically what a sports horse is, God knows but it looks like a sporty thing?
 
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A tb cross of some sort. If you think about it, if there were no tb's there would be no sports horses or warmbloods.
 
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Mines a British Sporthorse registered with SHBGB.
Going back through his breeding he's (approx) 97% TB and 3% something else (can't tell what).
So he's effectively a TB but with not enough TB to be officially called a TB.
 
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Two of ours are registered with SHBGB so could be termed British Sport Horses. One is a mix of Irish lines with a bit of Anglo Arab, the other is Selle Francais x KWPN.

To be eligible to be registered in the SHBGB Full Studbook the horse has to fulfil the following criteria:

Only animals by an SHB(GB) Graded Stallion, currently registered for the year of covering AND out of an SHB(GB) Graded Mare are
eligible for registration in the Full Stud Book.

NB Progeny foaled in the UK out of an SHB(GB) Graded Mare sired by a stallion standing abroad that fulfils the SHB(GB) criteria for
a Foreign Graded Stallion will be eligible for registration in the SHB(GB) Full Stud Book, so long as a DNA profile is available for the
sire to allow for parentage verification of the offspring.
 
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Adoni123 said:
From what I know, it's any horse born in Britain with some TB, but even then, they can be classed as so with no record of breeding.

It's kind of like 'cob type' on passport with no breeding - it's basically, God knows but looks like a cobby thing? I think that's basically what a sports horse is, God knows but it looks like a sporty thing?
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Im the first to call my lot mongrels with a tongue in cheek smile on my face, so I get where you are coming from!

But I’m not sure the WBFSH approved studbooks would quite share you analogy to some cobby thing!!

Continental warmblood registries are on the whole open ones (bar a small handful) as are the British sporthorse studbooks.

So yes, while British sporthorses, when you cut to the chase, are horses of sporty type - they are often purposely bred that way too!

I own 5 horses, 4 are on SHB(GB) passports, one is on an AES passport.

Between the 5 of them the have the following breeds or registries in various proportions:
TB
TID
ISH of warmblood origin
Selle Francais
KWPN
Trakehner
New Forest
 
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ihatework said:
Im the first to call my lot mongrels with a tongue in cheek smile on my face, so I get where you are coming from!

But I’m not sure the WBFSH approved studbooks would quite share you analogy to some cobby thing!!

Continental warmblood registries are on the whole open ones (bar a small handful) as are the British sporthorse studbooks.

So yes, while British sporthorses, when you cut to the chase, are horses of sporty type - they are often purposely bred that way too!

I own 5 horses, 4 are on SHB(GB) passports, one is on an AES passport.

Between the 5 of them the have the following breeds or registries in various proportions:
TB
TID
ISH of warmblood origin
Selle Francais
KWPN
Trakehner
New Forest
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Ooooo where does the new forest come in? thats so interesting! as far as i knew they were tiny little ponies? obviously its a part bred but still! i would be interested to know more.
 
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Ooooo where does the new forest come in? thats so interesting! as far as i knew they were tiny little ponies? obviously its a part bred but still! i would be interested to know more.
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The NF in that one was a complete mistake, a young Trak x ISH colt hopped the fence into a part bred NF mares paddock and did the deed. Produced quite a useful solid 15.2hh allrounder type.
 
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ihatework said:
The NF in that one was a complete mistake, a young Trak x ISH colt hopped the fence into a part bred NF mares paddock and did the deed. Produced quite a useful solid 15.2hh allrounder type.
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Oh wow! new forests are so versatile, so could imagine they make great medium sized all rounders, when crossed (accidentally) with a sports horse:) what passport is he/she on?
 
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Equally the German sports pony breeders use a huge amount of welsh blood.
My last chap was TB x Welsh but he had a WP&C passport. I just called him a carthorse. But very affectionately.
 
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Equally the German sports pony breeders use a huge amount of welsh blood.
My last chap was TB x Welsh but he had a WP&C passport. I just called him a carthorse. But very affectionately.
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my current horse is a welsh D x TB. hence wondering if there is a technical term for them, my mum also calls him a "cobby carthorse" even though hes actually rather lightly built. i tend to refer to him as a "welsh sports horse" (joking obviously) since his sire (the welsh)was 16.1, so was like the welsh equivalent to an irish draught, all very light heartedly though, obviously. what sort of things did you do with said 'carthorse'
 
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dressage.diva99 said:
my current horse is a welsh D x TB. hence wondering if there is a technical term for them, my mum also calls him a "cobby carthorse" even though hes actually rather lightly built. i tend to refer to him as a "welsh sports horse" (joking obviously) since his sire (the welsh)was 16.1, so was like the welsh equivalent to an irish draught, all very light heartedly though, obviously. what sort of things did you do with said 'carthorse'
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Said wonderful carthorse did this

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Fairly sure - so googled - that the Sports Horse Society was back in the day the Hunter Improvement Society - haven't read it all but actually a very interesting history going back to the 1800s so war horses developing through to leisure horses. My no longer with us horse was 7/8ths thoroughbred and he used to do sports horse classes. He wasn't registered with them though. He was an affiliated riding horse for showing purposes but unaffiliated did hunter, riding horse, light horse, sports horse, riding club horse! The Sports Horse Society run the hunter showing classes nowadays.
 
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