i don't think it's necessarily the same thing. it looks the same, i think, more or less, but overbent is often with too much contact in the rein, heavy in the hand, whereas behind the bit can be just ducking behind with no contact at all. or maybe it's only in my mind that there's a differentiation!
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i don't think it's necessarily the same thing. it looks the same, i think, more or less, but overbent is often with too much contact in the rein, heavy in the hand, whereas behind the bit can be just ducking behind with no contact at all. or maybe it's only in my mind that there's a differentiation!
I don't think its quite the same thing either. My boy overbends at times and the contact just becomes a bit heavy and loses direction but he can also overbend and seems to come behind the bit so that I have no contact at all.
It may be the same technically but it feels different to me.
I think when a horse is overbent you still have the contact; but when the horse is behind the bit the horse is behind the contact and needs more leg to push them into the contact.
Ah ha! I'm glad someone bought up overbending on here. I have seen so many photos of it in this forum! If a horse is overbent, the poll is not the highest point. It will often be the top of the neck. Often, the head is also behind the vertical.
I don't agree with it being the same thing. When a horse becomes behind the bit the feeling you get in your hand tends to be very light or not there at all, the horses action tends to become shorter.
When a horse is overbent you tend to get a heavier(almost leaning at times) feeling and this can also go with the horse'powering on' in his action.
Hope that makes sense!