WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE!!!

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just need to vent!! im DISGUSTED and FUMING!!

a friend of mine was paying a girl on her yard to take care of her horse but when we turned up unanounced the other day we found out the girl had been totaly neglecting him as well as her own!! the whole yard was slating this girl to high heaven although no one has bothered to report her!

i was completley disgusted and promptly volounteered my self to take care of him for. which means i now have to walk MILES out of my way (i dnt drive) twice a day on top of having to do my own 2!.

the yard her horse is on is a well known and respected yard in our area but when i went down this morning for the 1st time to do her horse i found there was no wheel barrow or shavings fork (assume theyve been nicked!) i asked my friend to ask the girl who was ment to be taking care of him and she said she dsnt have them and we are not to use hers!! so i asked the women in the stable opposite could i please lend hers for 5mins to muck out.. her reply was a point blank NO!!?

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?? SURELY THE WELFARE OF THE HORSE IS PARAMOUNT before some petty squabble!! (which would never have happend had the girl who was being paid to take care of him actually done her job in the 1st place!!) i have no idea how im expected to muck out now as my friend says she cant afford to buy new ones. im disgusted that no one can see fit to lend me a barrow and a fork for 5 mins to benefit the welfare of an innocent horse!!

i feel like crying im so angry and upset!!
 
Not excusing the girl but perhaps your friend should have done some research before leaving the horse in her care. Maybe use the money she is no longer paying this girl to provide tools. As for other livery, if she's on a big yard she's probably sick of spending her hard earned cash on stuff for others to use. In all honesty tho if your friend can't afford a shavings fork she shouldn't have a horse.
 
rowan666 said:
The whole yard was slating this girl to high heaven although no one has bothered to report her!
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Does the YO have no number on which to contact the owner?

I was completely disgusted and promptly volunteered my self to take care of him for. Which means i now have to walk miles out of my way (i don't drive) twice a day on top of having to do my own 2!.
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As kind as this is, this is not your problem - and will soon become a problem for you, I expect.

When I went down this morning for the 1st time to do her horse I found there was no wheel barrow or shavings fork (assume they've been nicked!) So i asked the women in the stable opposite could I please borrow hers for 5mins to muck out.. her reply was a point blank NO!!?
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Possibly because she was using her equipment herself - or (given the brief history here) she is very unhappy/frustrated at the situation that has developed and was not inclined to help out.

Where is the Yard Owner in this scenario - and why can't your friend look after her horses herself? And if she can afford to pay someone to look after them (as originally mentioned) she can afford a set of tools.

I expect there's much more to this story than first meets the eye.
 
If I was on that yard I would have lent you my thing's 1/2 but then I would expect your friend to buy her own things. Why can't she look after the horse herself? She really can't afford to buy mucking out tools?

I'd be a bit more cross with your friend actually. She doesn't sound like she's done her research.
 
correct me if im wrong but a lot of people use livery services right? (i dont personally think thers any point in having a horse you dont ever see!!)
and she did have her own tools theyve "gone missing" :confused: i also dont understand how she can afford to pay out for full livery of a horse get her nails done and go out evey wkend but cant afford basic things like wormer and new shavings fork!!

im just fuming with evryone including my friend tbh i dont understand why no one would help an innocent horse and every one seemed more than willing to leave him to litterally waste away in a stable far to small with no bedding piles of poo and no hay! :mad: how on earth is this allowed to happen on a yard full of "horsey people" i no its not the responsibility of anyone else on the yard and they shouldnt have to step in and help but how could you not? am i just bein too soft and over sensitive?

anyway last minute yesterday i ended up bein so mad i made a rash decision to jst move the horse (obv with permision) to my yard. dont really have the room but its much easier for me to get to and he seems very happy to be living out now! although thers bin no mention of how much shes goin to give me for this and im now taking care of him and paying for his feed and hay! grrrr didnt really want another horse but he is lovely and my youngster seems very taken with him! :)
 
While I understand your motives and you are trying to help the horse be careful you are putting yourself in a difficult position. You are caring for someone else's horse with no agreement for payment (and no chance of payment by the sounds of things) so she can come and reclaim her horse any time she wants. If you want to take over this horse properly offer to buy it, exchange a token amount of money and get its passport. If don't want to buy him either set up a livery contract or be prepared to be even more upset in the future.
 
rowan666 said:
i made a rash decision to jst move the horse (obv with permision) to my yard. dont really have the room but its much easier for me to get to and he seems very happy to be living out now! although thers bin no mention of how much shes goin to give me for this and im now taking care of him and paying for his feed and hay! grrrr didnt really want another horse but he is lovely and my youngster seems very taken with him! :)
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I think you need to establish this right away with the owner! Write up a contract and get her to sign it, friend or not (in fact ESPECIALLY friend!)
I have a feeling if you dnt put down some groundrules right away, and make sure she knows thre WILL be money due, you will be taken for a fool.
 
I'd put it more strongly than BooBoos. Suggest your friend signs him over to you or take responsibility for him. If she won't sign a livery arrangement start sending her regular bills for his care any way. Speak to a horse welfare agency, I don't suppose they would take him, but it would show that you're interested in his welfare, not stealing him.
 
i agree and i no i have been a major push over here! i think it would be best if she signed him over to me since i no she will very rarley see him so hes pretty much mine jst not legally. im just not sure how to approach the subject.

hes 15 and permanently lame with an old ligament injury and arthritis (although oddly enuf not this morning after spendidng his 1st night living out! :D) so he isnt actually worth money?? hes going to cost me a bloody fortune to keep!!! ide never choose to buy a horse like him hes a shire x and i love my arabs but i have fallen for him already!

maybe i should just offer to buy him i think she would sell him to me but how much would you pay for a horse like this??? :confused:
 
well, Id pay a total sum of nothing for him tbh. Lovely though he may be I wouldnt offer a home to a permanently lame older horse of a type I wouldnt choose anyway. call me harsh but Id rather spend my money on something I choose personally, not something which is thrust upon me in this way.
If you want him, offer her a peppercorn amount and she might be glad to be rid of the responsibility from what you say on here.

How you broach the matter of payment/or ownership.

Directly. Without delay.

:)
 
i dont think she is going to just give him away so to speak (although she practically has anyway she likes being able to say she owns a horse i think) but he really isnt worth money and i really wasnt in the market for another horse!

god this is an absolute nightmare of a situation! all i wanted to do was stop a horse being neglected and now ive ended up paying for its upkeep!! :(

im going to have to just bite the bullet and talk things through with her today. i really cant be forking out for another horse!

poor horse no one wants him! feel so sorry for him.... at least hes happy and pampered now regaurdless of weather i end up paying for it or not thats the most impotantant thing right :(
 
Echo the advice of others. Not much of a legal expert but is there anyway you could draw up a basic contract for his expenses for her to pay & you provide the care?
 
If you want to own him you should buy him for a pound.

If you want to loan him draw up a contract with the owner but beware she may take him back at any time and again fail to look after him.

If you want to offer livery draw up a contract with the owner, but beware you may never see your money.
 
Off the subject slightly but arthritics usually do better out 24/7 - stabling just causes the joints to seize up from lack of movement. My vet uses it as a test. Just rug him up if he's cold.
 
I think what you are doing for this horse is lovely. There are not many people out there willing to give horses like this a chance. I understand that it will probably be a hassle at times but by the sounds of it you are giving this horse a fantastic home and better future. Have you heard the saying saving one horse may not change the world but it will change the world for that one horse.

I bought a horse from a dealer, had no intention of getting a horse anything like him but seeing the shape he was in was disturbing to me. I have had him 4 years now and wouldn't change a thing we have such an amazing bond because of this. Nothing means more to me than that.

Well done for putting the horse first!
 
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