What is your take on this quote? (said to me last night)

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Expert know it all horse person says:


"If a horse is broke properly it will always act the same no matter how long you leave it or how old it is" "If it sits for a year without being ridden and you get on it and it acts out and tests you it was never broken properly"


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i think there is some truth in that, as i am finding out at the moment. my youngster occasionally reverts to his i am not playing today phase and i have been told if he says no you tell him yes and dont compromise, if he gets away with it now hes always going to try it on.
 
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Depends who gets on it how it would behave, surely?

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It was also suggested that it should not matter who the person is getting on. Even if that person was not confident and had allowed the horse to call their bluff previously.
 
There is some truth in it. My horse wasn't ridden for a year and she behaved exactly the same before and after - I'm not saying if that was well behaved or not
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There is some truth in it. My horse wasn't ridden for a year and she behaved exactly the same before and after - I'm not saying if that was well behaved or not
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at least she is consistant
 
I had an ex polo pony on loan, she hadnt been riden in 6 years when i got her,you would never have known,my grandaughter got on her first to see how she was and she was great
 
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I had an ex polo pony on loan, she hadnt been riden in 6 years when i got her,you would never have known,my grandaughter got on her first to see how she was and she was great

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Oh I 100% agree that some horses will be like this. That being said....if you take ten horses and have them broken in exactly the same way by the same trainer you may get far different reactions a year later from each of them when other people try to ride them?


I think it depends on the horse in question and the circumstances, not always how they were initially broke?
 
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Sounds like rubbish to me, horses are more complex creatures than that statement suggests

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Precisely. Your point was made far more eloquently than mine though
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I think there is a lot of truth in that. My daughter, always said this, if they were broken properly they would always behave properly, and it was certainly true of our Tim (ID xTB broken at 3 by old fashioned Irish horseman, - always an angel would never buck, rear, behave badly ( broken by a man who had manners with his horses)
Subsequent 4 horses all broken by professional horse breakers at vast cost, may I say ( showjumper in this case).
All complete angels in all ways, at all times, (all horses were ID/TB or pure bred IDs)
 
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I think there is a lot of truth in that. My daughter, always said this, if they were broken properly they would always behave properly, and it was certainly true of our Tim (ID xTB broken at 3 by old fashioned Irish horseman, - always an angel would never buck, rear, behave badly ( broken by a man who had manners with his horses)
Subsequent 4 horses all broken by professional horse breakers at vast cost, may I say ( showjumper in this case).
All complete angels in all ways, at all times, (all horses were ID/TB or pure bred IDs)

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could it be that your daughter is also a confident knowledgable rider and that is why you always got that reaction? Do you think they would have always acted like that if a nervous novice hopped up there after they had been sat in a field for a year?
 
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Sounds like rubbish to me, horses are more complex creatures than that statement suggests

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Precisely. Your point was made far more eloquently than mine though
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Why thankyou
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LOL surely that depends on the horse's personality?! Maybe they meant broke in the good old fashion sense of the word, break it's spirit and it'll be suicidally depressed for the rest of it's life no matter what you do with it.
 
But you can't say "it depends on the rider" - the whole point is that the time off isn't a factor and that the horse *should* be the same as it was if its basics are correct and well established.

So if a horse is a suitable novice ride and you leave it a year it should come back almost immediately to be a reasonable novice ride. If the horse is a well schooled dressage horse it should retain its skills and ridability - obviously with fitness taken in to account - even after significant time off.

By the same token, if the horse is badly behaved it *should* be the same after time off. What's REALLY interesting is how many horses IMPROVE with time off, even though people swear blind the work is not contributing to the problem in some way, perhaps through making the horse sore or causing it stress.

So, yes, this has been my experience. So long as nothing negative happens to the horse in the mean time, either before or during the time off, I would expect the horse to be pretty much the same, adjusting for fitness and not changing anything else.

Would I somehow magically expect a GP showjumper with a sensitive streak to become a suitable novice hack just by standing in a field? No, of course not.
 
I wrote a really long winded reply to this and then got bored of my own reply.
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Basically, I think its nonsense!
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TarrSteps has just written almost exactly what I was just thinking, so rather than me trying to rephrase it.....what she said!
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