xmoodyxmarex
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being an eventer this is something that has always bugged me!! I understand you enter BSJA automatically at grade C, but how do you progress, is it winnings or level you compete at or a combination of both?
what makes a horse a grade a/b/c in bsja?
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dieseldog
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In theory it is winnings (this is notional winnings).
0-£1000 is Grade C
1000-2000 is Grade B
2000+ is Grade A
however if you import a horse and cannot prove how much money it has won they get £x put on to their card. I know an 8YO+ becomes a Grade A, not sure about the other ages.
But it gets more complicated...
You can nominate your horse to be upgraded to whatever Grade you want as long as you pay the fee. The reason why they does is so that professionals can take their youngsters to international shows as they are only ususally open to horses of Grade B+ so then the horse becomes eligible to compete.
So always check the horses print out if you are buying one as it could be a Grade A without ever entering the ring. Also some stallion owners will do it to say that their horse is a Grade A and again it may never have jumped.
0-£1000 is Grade C
1000-2000 is Grade B
2000+ is Grade A
however if you import a horse and cannot prove how much money it has won they get £x put on to their card. I know an 8YO+ becomes a Grade A, not sure about the other ages.
But it gets more complicated...
You can nominate your horse to be upgraded to whatever Grade you want as long as you pay the fee. The reason why they does is so that professionals can take their youngsters to international shows as they are only ususally open to horses of Grade B+ so then the horse becomes eligible to compete.
So always check the horses print out if you are buying one as it could be a Grade A without ever entering the ring. Also some stallion owners will do it to say that their horse is a Grade A and again it may never have jumped.
xmoodyxmarex
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Ahhh that was fantastic help, thankyou very much!!
Tinker_Belle
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I didn't know you could pay for your horse to go up the ranks like that DD
Very interesting, thanks
conniegirl
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what is the difference between notional and actual winnings?
nomini
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Actual winnings is the amount you actually get given and take home.
Notional winnings is the amount put on your horses record, usually lower than the amount you actually win.
Notional winnings is the amount put on your horses record, usually lower than the amount you actually win.
sachak
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blimey - i wasnt aware you could upgrade your horse by paying for it... surely that defeats the object 
Santa_Claus
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yes I can name one stallion that was 'paid' to be upgraded to Grade A to make it's stud card sound more impressive
It sire was a world beater unfortunately it wasn't and never made it as the top stallion it's owner wanted it to be
Rambo
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blimey - i wasnt aware you could upgrade your horse by paying for it... surely that defeats the object
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That rather depends on what your 'object' is
I know of one case where a very high profile horse/rider combo were selected for a championshbip team...only to find a few days before they travelled that the horse was only Grade C and needed to be Grade A to be eligible to jump
The rule is that you have to pay the difference between what your horses notional winnings are and what the grading limit is...so if your horse had say £350 notional you would need to pay £1650 to upgrade it.
Oh, and to those that wonder the wisdom of the above example...the horse and rider went on to win Individual Gold at the championships
Not all pro's have time to jump their horses up through the grades...and in fact many of them don't even bother with anything much smaller than Foxhunter.
blimey - i wasnt aware you could upgrade your horse by paying for it... surely that defeats the object
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That rather depends on what your 'object' is
I know of one case where a very high profile horse/rider combo were selected for a championshbip team...only to find a few days before they travelled that the horse was only Grade C and needed to be Grade A to be eligible to jump
Oh, and to those that wonder the wisdom of the above example...the horse and rider went on to win Individual Gold at the championships
Not all pro's have time to jump their horses up through the grades...and in fact many of them don't even bother with anything much smaller than Foxhunter.