What stallion would you suggest for my IDxTB?

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She had a lovely colt by Pro-Set March 2007 and has been brought back into work, but I am now considering putting her back in foal in the next year or two... I now know she stamps her foals really nicely, so would be interested in seeing what sort of stallion others would suggest.

She is an IDxTB, 16.2hh mare. She can be quite stressy, but her foal has been pretty sane about things so far even though he is out of a hot stallion
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I would breed the foal for personal use with the aim of competing at the higher levels of dressage. The mare has straight and correct paces, but not the flashy moving WB type, however her foal is very flashy and has lovely paces so far.

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6 months in foal...
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With her foal at foot
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Are you aiming for a particular height etc? What about price range?
I absolutely love Lord Sinclair but his stud fee may be a tad pricey.
I'm really excted to see offspring by this stallion, Cooldanz, I haven't personally seen any of his yet, but I have ridden quite a few by his daddy, Contucci, and they have all been fabulous.
Good luck in your search and your colt is gorgeous!
 
Height wise I am looking at the foal making around 17hh as I am 5ft 9 and both horses are quite big so that is what I am used to...

Price range, the stud fee can be anything up to £1,400 ish, although the right stallion is more important. Pro's were £850 plus carriage...

I'll have a look at those two, thanks
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I would like something to fine out Han too...

I love Jazz, but wanted to use him on Grace if she can ever have a foal after the colic surgery.

Troy is fine thank you... I haven't seen him for over a month with everything that has been happening. His balls are staying well and truly intact for a while yet though
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I love Jazz, Krack C and Johnson. I would personally use something that is short backed, uphill and long legged.

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Neither Jazz, Krack or Johnson are short backed...
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KWPN are not keen on short backed horses, hence why most stallions are in the rectangular model. Long legged and uphill yes that is certainly a trait they look for in the dressage stallions.

Krack C, you would have to check on the quality of his semen as it can be touch and go depending on when in the season you require it. Jazz is very nice and so is Johnson. Would also recommend Vivaldi the young Krack C son at Uyerts, although not sure if he is standing due to his colic surgery.

There are also the new dressage sires, Westpoint (VDL) and Wynton. Or the black dressage stallion "Sam Remo" also stands at Uyerts but produces stunning stock. His daughter was 3 year old dressage champion last year and sold for a lot of money.
 
I quite like Sandro Hit too, but not sure he would complement Hannah...

The first time I went for a fine looking stallion and I think Troy is just the build I was looking for to be honest... Pro-Set has fined out Hannah
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personally wouldnt touch cooldanz, heard bad reports of him and hes failed a number of gradings prior to him being imported to england,

found out since having a proset foal and that his general stock are older, they seem to be super flashy foals that turn into mediocre 4yr olds but thats just my opinion
 
What about Lauriston? He tends to throw stock larger than the mare, and really stamps them too. We have 3 by him on the yard, one homebred, two brought (1's for sale!). They can all really move, and have nice trainable attitudes.
 
I would consider using Pro-Set again, yes, because Troy is a really nicely put together horse who has presence but has a lovely trainable attitude! The first time I loaded him on his own, he listened and just walked up when I asked... fingers crossed he will be as good in his ridden work
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The flashiness as horses is not a major thing for me because having watched a few demos, the horses are nothing 'wow' until they get going. I think if you have the basics there, like good hock action, uphill movement, you can train the flashiness into them...
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This was him at 6 months just before he went away (I am going to see him either tomorrow or Monday so will take the camera):
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I have had 4 lauriston foals, they do move really well, but I haven't found that any of mine have come out bigger than expected, infact the majority have been smaller than expected BUT all of them are fine and very classy. The one we kept is being produced at the moment and has a very trainable temperament and I regularly speak to the lady with one of the others and she has found hers very trainable as well.
 
How about Polansky? My six year old is by him, and he has sired a few very well thought of youngsters who are now coming through the gradings. He is relatively short backed (my boy is very short coupled), extremely uphill, with a super hind leg which he passes on to his offspring. He is big (17.1 I think) but doesn't seem to pass on all of his height. I saw him in the flesh as Hickstead this year and can vouch for his impressiveness and wow factor.

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Neither Jazz, Krack or Johnson are short backed...

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I didn't mean they were short backed, although they're compact as in not long in the body, aren't they?!
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Thats what I mean't anyway
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Thank you everyone... I am googling the ones suggested as we speak
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Tempi - just keeping my option open and realistically I would like to breed from Han again in the future
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I didn't mean they were short backed, although they're compact as in not long in the body, aren't they?!
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All three I would not class as being short backed/short coupled. Have seen them all in the flesh in Holland. Jazz is particularly long lined in both directions, as is Johnson, but that is what dressage breeders prefer in Holland. A short backed horse will IMO never be able to bring its hindend under as well as a horse in the more rectangular model, as there is not enough space.

Jazz is semi-popular with the breeders in Holland. Think he gets around 100 or so coverings per year, mainly because he and his stock are hot. I think it would be different if you had a Jazz mare and were putting her onto another stallion. As the breeders in Holland say, "if you breed to Jazz, you might as well breed the rider to ride it also"...
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Other stallions worth looking at if you want to go on the above lines is United (Krack C son), and Tuschinski (another Krack C son). Both proving quite popular with breeders in Holland, and Tuschinski has a few sons forward in Den Bosch. So it will be interesting to see how they fair. Also Sandreo (Sandro Hit) son that stands at Nijhof. Does throw nice foals and had the Champion foal in France I believe, but I would only use him on a mare that is already powerful from behind. He throws absolutely stunning looks.

Polansky is a nice enough horse but not that popular with breeders I am afraid.

There is also Special D, the Metal son, who is quite a hit with breeders in Holland and does give the Ferro action in the hind leg. Or Metal himself, who is a lovely stallion.

If wishing to use a stallion in the UK then there are a few, including our own lad, who I would almost say can give 100% a better hind leg on the foal compared to the mare. He covered a variety of types of foals last year from TB's, AA's..through to WB's, and all owners said the movement was vastly improved on the mare. I would certainly say that also on the mares we bred to him.

Although we dont know how these horses will fair as riding horses, as far as foals go we have been VERY happy. They also have excellent temperaments, attitude and trainability.

Below are a couple of pictures of foals taken from last year.

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The following foal was bred out of a Dixi x Basil Masterpiece mare who is quite heavy, as you will see from the pictures. Vision refined the foal more, giving better length and movement. The mare is back in foal for 2008 to Vision.

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