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My friend is starting a new job as a personal groom to 3 horses, chickens and a dog kept at a ladys private yard.

She has to mon-fri do 3 x horses and care for them fully, and also ride one of them. go twice a day

organsie all vets/farrier/etc

get feed and hay/straw deliveries

basically treat as own horses. (occasional weekends too)

and also care for a dog (sometimes overnight too), and 5 hens.

so what SALARY would you suggest - not weekly wages
 
Thats only going to be a part time job though really.

I had a freelance groom do our three (muck out/turn out etc) and ride one of them for me, plus five hens (which take all of a minute to muck out) and she was only there 2, occasionally 3 hours a day. Organising vets/blacksmiths doesn't take much really.
 
yes id also guess at 3 hours per day

included in this is obviously holding/waiting for vets/farriers, going to feed shop, clipping, trimming, etc. walking doggie too.

so what did you pay? or did you pay hourly. the lady is keen not to pay by the hour so that any "small overtime, undertime isnt included" its just a set wage with no time sheet to get the job done properly.
 
Well, my friend earns about £13-14k I think for a 4 day week looking after a lady's 4/5/6 horses (she changes them regularly!) and occasionally having to feed two dogs. She does all the yard stuff, puts horses on the walker etc, and I think rides 1 or 2 a day. She is flexible and works weekends when her boss is competing etc. IME 'occasional' weekends more often than not turn into every other weekend!

To be fair you could spend longer than 3 hours a day doing all the yard stuff, if you are doing everything like cleaning tack washing stuff etc. Esp if you have to be there morning and evening :)
 
We paid hourly, and £12/hr.

Years and years ago I did work on a private yard that had three horses and I worked five days a week full time - I fed in the morning, mucked out, groomed, rode all three, as they were hunters, clipped, trimmed, cleaned tack daily etc. In the summer I did some ODEs with the hunters, and did jobs like creosoting and painting the stables and fences etc. It depends on how perfectly they want everything doing.

Our part time groom only did when I was away on trips at work, and I wasn't bothered if everything wasn't perfectly swept and muckheap forked etc as I'd do that on the days that I was off. Hubby did them in the morning/eve before and after work, and we organised everything ourselves. It was purely mucking out and exercise that we needed..
 
Stencilface said:
Well, my friend earns about £13-14k I think for a 4 day week looking after a lady's 4/5/6 horses (she changes them regularly!) and occasionally having to feed two dogs. She does all the yard stuff, puts horses on the walker etc, and I think rides 1 or 2 a day. She is flexible and works weekends when her boss is competing etc. IME 'occasional' weekends more often than not turn into every other weekend!

To be fair you could spend longer than 3 hours a day doing all the yard stuff, if you are doing everything like cleaning tack washing stuff etc. Esp if you have to be there morning and evening :)
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ok thanks, ill pass that one. the employer has asked for what she thinks is an appropriate wage. and shes stumped! as i would be.

£14k pretty good i recon!
 
Honey08 said:
We paid hourly, and £12/hr.

Years and years ago I did work on a private yard that had three horses and I worked five days a week full time - I fed in the morning, mucked out, groomed, rode all three, as they were hunters, clipped, trimmed, cleaned tack daily etc. In the summer I did some ODEs with the hunters, and did jobs like creosoting and painting the stables and fences etc. It depends on how perfectly they want everything doing.

Our part time groom only did when I was away on trips at work, and I wasn't bothered if everything wasn't perfectly swept and muckheap forked etc as I'd do that on the days that I was off. Hubby did them in the morning/eve before and after work, and we organised everything ourselves. It was purely mucking out and exercise that we needed..
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ah right, well this is EVERYTHING so when the employer isnt running her sucessful business she can just enjoy her horses without any worries at all.

thanks Kim
 
tinker88 said:
ok thanks, ill pass that one. the employer has asked for what she thinks is an appropriate wage. and shes stumped! as i would be.

£14k pretty good i recon!
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I think she has hit a good one this time too really, although she does work hard and do everything to a v high standard. Also as her boss also has her own business she also does everything above board, so would even be entitled to maternity etc, virtually unheard of in the horsey world! :eek:
 
I think I saw that job advertised, sounds very similar to one I saw anyway although they didn't mention it was going up twice a day! Really its for the employer to decide what they are paying and what they want doing. They need to work out what tasks are to be included in the job and how long they should take to be done, and as minimum offer the appropriate minimum wage (which I think is about to go up again) for that work. Both parties need to be clear on what the job is, or this vague description is likely to annoy both sides at some point with extra tasks/time being added on which the employee may feel unfair, or the employer feeling at times that the employee isn't pulling her weight if the expectations on her haven't been made clear enough at the outset.
 
If you say £10 ph then 3 hours a day, five days a week. If riding too perhaps four hours per day.

So 15-20 hours per week (£150-£200) x 52 = £7800 - £10400

Part-time wage. I have 5 horses and do everything myself, on top of a full-time job. It's not full-time looking after 3!
 
I think they need to sort out the hours to be worked and the standards required. If no grooming and horses turned out during day, and yard not kept immaculate then that is a lot less work. Rugs can be lightweight and used 24.7, saves time again.
If the dog needs walked twice a day then that is an hour unless it can come out with the horse!
 
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