What would you do? Horrids being Horrid

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OK well the horrid one has been being very naughty on the lunge lately. His new trick is to get his tounge over the bit. But only on the right rein in canter. It wasn't to bad realy and I just worked him through it. But yesterday he was a compleate nightmare. Rearing right up and throwing himself around. He was alittle better once I removed the sidereins but still wouldn't settle. It was almost like when I first got him and we had battles of over an hour to just get one circle of trot on one rein. (It is diffrent this time as he isn't actualy trying to hurt me, He turns away from me when he rears instead of coming at me and when he bucks his legs don't come in my direction) Anyway I have been given many suggestions by lots of people as you can imagen and was just wondering what you would do? Some of the sugestion I have already had have been prity awful but we are used to that.

P.S I know what i'm going to do I just wondered what everyone else thought as I am bord at the mo. :)
 
Lunge him without the bridle on, see if there is any difference, or lunge him first just on the headcoller/cavason while he gets his playfulness out of the way, then make him work correctly when he's feeling more sensible.

Could be that he may need his teeth looking at, or perhaps one side of his mouth or that he's stiffer on rein than the other so finds it difficult to cope with the sidereins on.

Is he any different if you free school him with the bridle on and side reins, just to see if it's effecting him more on a circle for example?

Do you clip the lunge line onto one side of the bit, or up and over to the outside rein, or do you use a bit connector (or what ever they call them) to clip the line to?
 
Ditto check teeth and his mouth. Then think about the bit- does it suit his mouth conformation? It sounds like he is reacting to discomfort to the bit. Or if he is weaker one way then he finds it harder and what you are asking is too much for him.
Check everything then work by process of elimination. I dont believe he is acting the way he is because hes being entirely naughty- hes objecting to something
 
I would absolutely get the back lady out - if its only on one rein, and he's really objecting to it, then I would imagine its a muscle problem.

Although teeth useful as well of course as it may be a problem just on one side. xxxx
 
Thanks guys
I think it's his teeth I've booked the dentist to come out Mon morning. I'm going to leave him till then and see what she thinks. I truly think he is in pain which is why he is being naughty. As I said it's not the same as he was before when he was just being horrid. He is used to sidereins and I always lunge him with the lunge line clipped to the outside bit and then up and over and through the inside. (It's the only way to have control when he buggers about :p) I've always lunged him like that and it's never been a problem before. I did think about lunging him in a headcoller but desided it wasn't worth the risk. ;)
Hopefuly the dentist will be able to sort him out. She tried to look at his teeth afew months back but she couldn't get anywhere near him as there was to much going on in the yard and he was to upset. Hopefuly it'll be just her, herbs and I on Mon and he will stay calm and let her do her job. Fingers crossed.

I have been told by afew helpful people to just put a flash on him and beat him through it :mad: ( these people don't know the horrid one all that well :rolleyes: ) They told me to stop making excuses for him and get after him. But seeing as he was fine lunging the other week (well fine for him anyway ;) ) I think i'll do it my way and get his teeth checked first. :)
 
Take no notice of those helpful people :rolleyes:, there shouldn't ever be a need to strap his mouth shut, not when there has never been any issues before, could be that he's tweeked something somewhere else, like his back or his pelvis and he's showing resistance in the mouth due to the discomfort....as well as the bronks, when a horse is relaxed and comfortable they are soft in the mouth, if you have everything checked, starting with teeth (start with the cheaper things first:D) possible try putting him through his paces without using anything in his mouth (if you can) and try to establish if there is any differences, then possible get his back checked, it's easily done if they have been looning about, probably something that will easily be sorted once you find out what is is. :)
 
Great minds Kenzo ;) :p :D I was thinking just that. Start with the teeth :) I don't listen to helpful people it all just goes in one ear and out the other. :rolleyes: I hope I know Herbs well enough now to know he is trying to tell me something :) He also shied away from having his bridle on today to bring him in so I could ride Merryn. He wanted to be caught as he came over with his ears pricked as soon as he saw me. He just wasn't keen on having the bit in his mouth. All pointing twords teeth I think.
 
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