Starbucks
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Don't know but he sounds delightful!
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Don't know but he sounds delightful!
What would you do in this situation??
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JACQSZOO
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I was not replying to you - I was using quick reply and I apologise if I offended you.
The OP called the man an arse - I was merely pointing out that actually, I felt that her OH had behaved like an arse for screaming at an innocent stranger.
I would have reacted exactly as the man did in turning round and walking away if I had been with my Damnation - she dislikes other dogs and it would have been a situation that I would wish to avoid - hence me walking away.
The OP called the man an arse - I was merely pointing out that actually, I felt that her OH had behaved like an arse for screaming at an innocent stranger.
I would have reacted exactly as the man did in turning round and walking away if I had been with my Damnation - she dislikes other dogs and it would have been a situation that I would wish to avoid - hence me walking away.
JACQSZOO
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Why am I an arse when i wasn't even there??
I'll pass the message onto Dan that he is an arse.
I really don't see why it is acceptable to have a very aggressive dog (even if on a lead) out in public but not a friendly one that tries to play with others?
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So where is this very aggressive dog then? Yes I have a dog that is unpredictable with other dogs, had I seen another dog haring its way over to me clearly out of control I would have taken avoidance tactics and turned away. To then get screamed at by the out of control dog owner because I was in control of my dog is just plain ridiculous.
Why am I an arse when i wasn't even there??
I'll pass the message onto Dan that he is an arse.
I really don't see why it is acceptable to have a very aggressive dog (even if on a lead) out in public but not a friendly one that tries to play with others?
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So where is this very aggressive dog then? Yes I have a dog that is unpredictable with other dogs, had I seen another dog haring its way over to me clearly out of control I would have taken avoidance tactics and turned away. To then get screamed at by the out of control dog owner because I was in control of my dog is just plain ridiculous.
JACQSZOO
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Don't know but he sounds delightful!
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Don't know but he sounds delightful!
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foxviewstud
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well if his dog is aggressive towards other dogs he should not be walking it in a doggy park and it should be muzzled. i think it was very inconsiderate of him to walk off, but a little bit more control of alf would be a bonus. i had a similar row with someone, my collie always used to run back up the private lane from doing the horses following the car, he would never wander and a resident who has an aggressive dog, (towards ppl and dogs)was walking his dog on an extendable lead this dog flew out and attcked my dog who did not retaliate at all and left big holes in his side which had to be stitched up, it cost £230 so we made a visit to the owner asking him to pay half of the bill as his dog should be muzzled, after a huge row he agreed as he knew he was in the wrong. the reason only half is because we took into account that my dog was not on the lead, but he did not go near the other dog. so would we have been in the wrong completely or both in the wrong as i feel we all were.
JulieL
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Hi Jinglejacq - Oh ok - I thought you was posting me! No hard feelings
I dont think anyone here an 'arse'. Dogs are dogs and this little one has obviosuly just gone over to say Hi and wag tails etc. The man could have waited - it would have bin an awful situation if the little dof off lead got hurt/run over just for the sake of someone standing for a few seconds longer whilst owner got to him - dogs do that.
I dont think it was unreasonable - just a reactive situation - it happens, and the little dog obviously wasn't in any way a threat. If it had got up with teeth bared etc etc - well, that's different.
Just a situation! I wonder if the boot was on the other foot - what would of that man said??
Anyway, no harm done - all doggies and OH and strangers - all ok
I dont think anyone here an 'arse'. Dogs are dogs and this little one has obviosuly just gone over to say Hi and wag tails etc. The man could have waited - it would have bin an awful situation if the little dof off lead got hurt/run over just for the sake of someone standing for a few seconds longer whilst owner got to him - dogs do that.
I dont think it was unreasonable - just a reactive situation - it happens, and the little dog obviously wasn't in any way a threat. If it had got up with teeth bared etc etc - well, that's different.
Just a situation! I wonder if the boot was on the other foot - what would of that man said??
Anyway, no harm done - all doggies and OH and strangers - all ok
Starbucks
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You've just said if it had been your dog it would have turned mine into toast? Is that not aggressive??
The man led a dog onto the road FFS! i think he would have stood much more chance against the dog than a car running into him!!
I'm not saying we weren't the wrong, but I think he was too!! How can anyone call themselves a dog person and lead a dog onto a road!?
The man led a dog onto the road FFS! i think he would have stood much more chance against the dog than a car running into him!!
I'm not saying we weren't the wrong, but I think he was too!! How can anyone call themselves a dog person and lead a dog onto a road!?
JulieL
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Starbucks - I think it was, as I said above, just a reactive situation. Your OH probably panicked about little one being by the road (and rightfully so) and the other man was just a p***t and letting yr dog go on the road. The two just ain't gonna mix!! Dogs are dogs!!
Yes, perhaps your OH should not have shouted - but s**t happens. At least your ikkle dog ok (an OH calmed down)
((likkle dog hug))
LB x
Yes, perhaps your OH should not have shouted - but s**t happens. At least your ikkle dog ok (an OH calmed down)
((likkle dog hug))
LB x
Starbucks
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Thanks LB, you make it sound much more normal!!
I was really shocked when OH came back and said what had happened! He is the most chilled person ever! I think, like you said, he perhaps got in a bit of a panic about it. I know I have shouted at people if there horse and kicked mine etc. out hunting, just an initial reaction when you are worried for your animal I suppose, even if it is partly your own fault!
I was really shocked when OH came back and said what had happened! He is the most chilled person ever! I think, like you said, he perhaps got in a bit of a panic about it. I know I have shouted at people if there horse and kicked mine etc. out hunting, just an initial reaction when you are worried for your animal I suppose, even if it is partly your own fault!
JACQSZOO
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You've just said if it had been your dog it would have turned mine into toast? Is that not aggressive??
The man led a dog onto the road FFS! i think he would have stood much more chance against the dog than a car running into him!!
I'm not saying we weren't the wrong, but I think he was too!! How can anyone call themselves a dog person and lead a dog onto a road!?
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Like I said my dog is unpredictable with other dogs, hence why she is always on a lead unless in an area where I can guarantee there are no other dogs. So yes, she can be aggressive with other dogs and I control her accordingly. I don't take her places where there are lots of other dogs, I purposely walk her in out of the way places. However, should I see another dog hightailing it towards us and the owner having no control of it, then yes, I will do something to avoid a rucas.
No he did not lead it into the road. Your OH did that by not being in control of his dog. You cannot blame this man for your OH's lack of control. If he has no recal then he should not be off the lead its simple. It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road but to accuse him of being an arse and for your OH to abuse him is way of out of order.
You've just said if it had been your dog it would have turned mine into toast? Is that not aggressive??
The man led a dog onto the road FFS! i think he would have stood much more chance against the dog than a car running into him!!
I'm not saying we weren't the wrong, but I think he was too!! How can anyone call themselves a dog person and lead a dog onto a road!?
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Like I said my dog is unpredictable with other dogs, hence why she is always on a lead unless in an area where I can guarantee there are no other dogs. So yes, she can be aggressive with other dogs and I control her accordingly. I don't take her places where there are lots of other dogs, I purposely walk her in out of the way places. However, should I see another dog hightailing it towards us and the owner having no control of it, then yes, I will do something to avoid a rucas.
No he did not lead it into the road. Your OH did that by not being in control of his dog. You cannot blame this man for your OH's lack of control. If he has no recal then he should not be off the lead its simple. It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road but to accuse him of being an arse and for your OH to abuse him is way of out of order.
JulieL
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Well it is what it is - a situation which arose - no doggie aggression or dust ups - just summat that happened! That's wot u get for having a friendly pesky puppie!
My OH very placid - so I would have bin just as surprised as you if he came back and said he shouted at some one, but bless, he obviously just reacted if he is not normally mouthy!
I bet your delighted you posted this one? LOL
Anyway, I think as no harm done either way - the nuts and bolts is - so what, someone got shouted at - go OH - knock yer self out and SHOUT LMAO
My OH very placid - so I would have bin just as surprised as you if he came back and said he shouted at some one, but bless, he obviously just reacted if he is not normally mouthy!
I bet your delighted you posted this one? LOL
Anyway, I think as no harm done either way - the nuts and bolts is - so what, someone got shouted at - go OH - knock yer self out and SHOUT LMAO
Starbucks
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It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road
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But this clearly made no difference in the amount of time his dog spent near our dog?? do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
Can i just point out that they could see OH running down to get him and this man was storming off at quite a speed down the road apparently..
As said above, I'm really surprised at Dan's reaction!! I think he was just really worried and freaked out a bit!
It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road
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But this clearly made no difference in the amount of time his dog spent near our dog?? do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
Can i just point out that they could see OH running down to get him and this man was storming off at quite a speed down the road apparently..
As said above, I'm really surprised at Dan's reaction!! I think he was just really worried and freaked out a bit!
JACQSZOO
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It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road
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But this clearly made no difference in the amount of time his dog spent near our dog?? do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
Can i just point out that they could see OH running down to get him and this man was storming off at quite a speed down the road apparently..
As said above, I'm really surprised at Dan's reaction!! I think he was just really worried and freaked out a bit!
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Who knows what the man thought, whatever the case he was perfectly entitled to leave the park should he wish to and when he wishes to do so without the fear of someone verbally abusing him.
I can understand your OH's concern but it really does not excuse his behaviour.
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It was unfortunate that this man felt his only option was to leave the park and the only option for him was onto a road
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But this clearly made no difference in the amount of time his dog spent near our dog?? do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
Can i just point out that they could see OH running down to get him and this man was storming off at quite a speed down the road apparently..
As said above, I'm really surprised at Dan's reaction!! I think he was just really worried and freaked out a bit!
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Who knows what the man thought, whatever the case he was perfectly entitled to leave the park should he wish to and when he wishes to do so without the fear of someone verbally abusing him.
I can understand your OH's concern but it really does not excuse his behaviour.
Starbucks
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Umm, maybe so..... I'm sure he'll live!
Starbucks
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Just wanted to add that people can carry on there usual business in lots of situations but it doesnt mean that doing nothing is the right thing to do.
I just would hope that as dog owners we would help each other out if needed, not just leave dogs to get run over!!
Apparently I was wrong and its just every man (and dog) for himself.
Sad..
I just would hope that as dog owners we would help each other out if needed, not just leave dogs to get run over!!
Apparently I was wrong and its just every man (and dog) for himself.
Sad..
Blackhawk
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do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
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Maybe he thought that if he turned away from the dog (taking away the excitement of another dog), and your OH called the dog then he would return. How was he to know that that was not the case?
do you think he thought he would go away if he went out of the gate??
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Maybe he thought that if he turned away from the dog (taking away the excitement of another dog), and your OH called the dog then he would return. How was he to know that that was not the case?
Starbucks
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Yea probably, I wasn't being funny or anything in that question, was just wondering. He did carry on off up the road afterwards though before Dan could catch up.
Not to worry, alls good and the 2 (hopefully) will never meet again!
Not to worry, alls good and the 2 (hopefully) will never meet again!
JulieL
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I think wot Starbucks is saying, although i agree with you Snowhawk, that her little dog was put in immediate danger - just for the sake of the guy stopping for a mo. Starbucks recognises the fact that the other guy got a bawling at - but her OH was running towards their dog and the guy could see wot was happening and he was trying to get the dog. Starbucks little dog obviously just got caught up in the moment. If it had gone up growling etc. i really would have understood the other guy walking away rapidly, but that wasn't the case. And if his dog doesn't like other dogs, then begs the questions why did he take his dog to a place where other dogs running around?
As I said before - all of our dogs at some point have gone running up to another dog to say hi and we have called them and they have gone completely deaf (try my Dally!).
As I said before - all of our dogs at some point have gone running up to another dog to say hi and we have called them and they have gone completely deaf (try my Dally!).
Starbucks
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all of our dogs at some point have gone running up to another dog to say hi and we have called them and they have gone completely deaf
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No, i think thats just ours!
all of our dogs at some point have gone running up to another dog to say hi and we have called them and they have gone completely deaf
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No, i think thats just ours!
JulieL
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Awwww Starbucks - you gatta naughty ikkle pesky pup!
Starbucks
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Yep!! He is very cute though!
He also likes to take everyones ball off them in the park too!! He even managed to get his little gob round a football last week!
as I'm sure you can tell he is very popular!
Awwww Starbucks - you gatta naughty ikkle pesky pup!
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Yep!! He is very cute though!
as I'm sure you can tell he is very popular!
JulieL
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sniggers Oh Lordy - my Dally done that a couple of years ago in a Sunday league game - I pretended she wasn't mine and sent my daughter to get her whilst I carried on walking LOL
I laff now, but at the time I was mortified and vowed to never ever take her out again (bit of an over reaction I think on my behalf
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Anyway, keep that ferocious beast tied up and never take him for a walk again - ever! Told you now
LB x
I laff now, but at the time I was mortified and vowed to never ever take her out again (bit of an over reaction I think on my behalf
Anyway, keep that ferocious beast tied up and never take him for a walk again - ever! Told you now
LB x
Starbucks
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Arrr, you'd think butter wouldn't melt...
JulieL
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Oh he is gorgeous! But gotta say - he looks like a proper rascal!
Also looks extremely intimidating - if you dont mind me saying that is
Also looks extremely intimidating - if you dont mind me saying that is
Tia
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QR -
This thread has become a little more excitable since I last viewed it LOL!!
I just want to say one final thing; you said there was no fence at the part of the park your OH was at. Forget about this man for a moment, what do you think your little dog might have done if he had spotted a "potential playmate" walking with it's owner ACROSS the road from the park?
This situation can be dressed up to suit; but the point is, this man's dog was on a lead and under control. He could have had many reasons for walking out of the park and he certainly did not deserve to be shouted at for going about his lawful business. Sorry.
This thread has become a little more excitable since I last viewed it LOL!!
I just want to say one final thing; you said there was no fence at the part of the park your OH was at. Forget about this man for a moment, what do you think your little dog might have done if he had spotted a "potential playmate" walking with it's owner ACROSS the road from the park?
This situation can be dressed up to suit; but the point is, this man's dog was on a lead and under control. He could have had many reasons for walking out of the park and he certainly did not deserve to be shouted at for going about his lawful business. Sorry.
Starbucks
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You don't have to apologise Tia! Dan wasn't in that bit of the park, I think Alf had followed them down to that part with Dan trying to call him, then when he saw they weren't going to stop he ran down. thats the kiddie part so dog people don't normally go in there - because of the kids and the lack of gate! As I have said previously he's never gone on the road before... I don't want to keep him on a lead at all time just because of one incident..
Grrrr - I hate living in a city!!! If I lived in a nice rural area I'd have far less problems!
Grrrr - I hate living in a city!!! If I lived in a nice rural area I'd have far less problems!
Tia
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Totally agree. It is so much easier for them to learn in their own time whilst in a secure environment. My black shepherd dog is 2 years old and although she is very good at coming to call on my farm, I am pretty sure she would be inconsistent if I were to take her into town.
My 3 had their yearly trip into town today to the vets to get their shots and boy it was exciting for them all
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My 3 had their yearly trip into town today to the vets to get their shots and boy it was exciting for them all
prose
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Grrrr - I hate living in a city!!! If I lived in a nice rural area I'd have far less problems!
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I hear you. When Stella is off leash, I don't go anywhere without a clicker, treats and a squeaky ball. A road is never far away, even though the parks we walk in are 900 acres and 500, respectively.
Grrrr - I hate living in a city!!! If I lived in a nice rural area I'd have far less problems!
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I hear you. When Stella is off leash, I don't go anywhere without a clicker, treats and a squeaky ball. A road is never far away, even though the parks we walk in are 900 acres and 500, respectively.
Skhosu
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Sorry-your dog wanting to play with my dogs would drive me scatty, I have a very non aggressive lab to people who will protect her owner and 'family' dogs, and doesn't like other dogs BECAUSE of one random male dog that decided to hump her, she was thoroughly traumatised and takes dislikes to other dogs now. I was taking a neighbours old dog for a walk, shes fragile, deaf and half blind but it was only round the green bit-the stupid dog owners couldn't understand when I yelled at them to call their boisterous labs off and she was growling at them, recipe for disaster.
Or the dog that is on a lead because it won't recall, getting all excited when another dog runs over to it?
Sorry, trying to say its ok for your dog to be running up to others is wrong IMO.
Or the dog that is on a lead because it won't recall, getting all excited when another dog runs over to it?
Sorry, trying to say its ok for your dog to be running up to others is wrong IMO.
Oneofthepack
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I had a very similar thing happen, also with an Alfie! Alf ran up to a man and his dog as we were walking back to the car and the dogs were playing about together but when I called him he just went deaf and followed this man all the way back to the other side of the park. Even though the man could hear me calling he would not wait just a few seconds until I could catch up with him and get Alf on the lead.
My sympathy lies entirely with you!
My sympathy lies entirely with you!