What would you do in this situation?

its not an emotive argumentative ploy at all, its called BEING REALISTIC. there are any number of scenarios, i have my son with me when im with the dogs. i also have a large mastiffXrottie that is about 11 months old and bouncy as they get, so, being a GOOD RESPONSIBLE owner, i dont let her bound around off the lead. it is purely common sense.

the other owner is not in the wrong because she didnt have a light, what kind of an excuse is that '' yes judge my dog did run up to hers and scare the living out of her, but she didnt have a light-how dare she'!!!" it is terrible that this has happened to the poor pup, through no fault of its own and hopefully its a lesson for its owner.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Slightly o/t on Friday my son was mortified as he had been out in the fields playing football with Evie and he totally mistimed a kick and got her on the side of the head, he was wearing steel toe caps. He said she ducked and looked mortified for a minute then carried on playing, I always knew she had a thick skull.:D
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LOL! When I was a kid my mum was playing on a set of swings (don't ask :D) and managed to catch the puppy whilst she was swinging away with all possible speed and force. She sent the poor little thing flying! We took him to the vets to be checked over and he was fine, but 18 years later you still only have to hint at the incident and she suffers a wash of guilt :)
 
newtothis said:
what would people be saying if the other lady had a small child who was terrified of other dogs with her and the GSD had knocked her over???? ive seen it happen and a close friend of mine was terrified of dogs as a child because a ''friendly'' dog jumped on her when she was 3.
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Actually I was knocked flat on my back by a strange GSD when I was 3 and I've never had a single day of being terrified of dogs in my life. I firmly believe that is because of the way my Mum reacted - she picked me up and said "Aw he just wanted to give you a big cuddle, why don't you pat him and say thanks", totally unconcerned and therefore didn't pass on her anxiety to me (and incidentally I was unbelieveably shy and nervous as a child).

To reply to the OP I think nobody in this situation behaved perfectly so I think legal action would be expensive and foolish but, seeing as she knows the woman and has to live in the same village as her, why not go round to her house and ask if she would help to make sure the puppy isn't rendered aggressive by this incident by meeting up to play with the puppy either with or without her own dogs. That should both help the puppy and help the spaniel lady see she was a bit OTT while your friend gets to act the ever-so-responsible-dog-owner part :)
 
The more I see dogs interact, the more I think us humans totally over-react to normal dog play.
I've seen a lot of skirmishes recently which looked and sounded awful, but with no broken skin and no broken dogs - it's just how some of them interact.

Your friend's dog will only become stranger-shy if she allows him to, socialise, socialise, socialise, tonnes of group work, DON'T project our fears onto the dog by being nervous and fearful and pre-empting a response.

How and ever, if people don't have recall, and don't expect the unexpected, especially in the dark, lead or long line.

Agreed with whoever said, if she had done that to some dogs, she would be nursing a leg injury.
I walk my dogs in the dark and there is no way I would let them off because I am quite sure I would never see my male again. People have to realise their own limitations and those of their dogs.

Very few people around where I live WANT to have a GSD, well behaved or otherwise, running up to them or their dogs unbidden. So I make sure that does not happen, for the good of the reputation of the breed. Touch wood :p

I've been splatted many times by many dogs since I was a child and still get splatted :p no fear here!
 
Just a quick update- pup is still in vets and will be for some time as fluid build up and bruising meaning he needs pain killers. The situation was mentioned in the village church this morning apparently - the land owner of the field was there and he said he was shocked at the reaction to the other dog owner and said he has never herd of such incidence in the village before... gossip spreads quickly so im sure the lady who kicked him will hear about it in time......

Just a note to say- the field is fully fenced- sheep net and hende all round and has those rounded kissing gates- so any dog walked there is fully secured. Pup does have good recall- but by the time owner realised he had been kicked and couldn't come back as was on the floor.

I think she will re-socialise him, once hes fit and up to it. :)

Thanks for all the lovely PMs from the few that passed on their kind regards to Buzz- I have passed them on. x
 
I think the other lady is possibly in the wrong, as her dogs were also off lead, so for an off lead dog to approach them imo is not discourteous/out of order.
HOWEVER, the pup could well have taken a dislike to one of the dogs and been starting something. Who knows? The owner should have been close enough to stop it. TBH I don't think it all adds up as if she was close enough to see them clearly in her headlamp, why wasn't she close enough to intervene?
 
CaveCanem said:
The more I see dogs interact, the more I think us humans totally over-react to normal dog play.
I've seen a lot of skirmishes recently which looked and sounded awful, but with no broken skin and no broken dogs - it's just how some of them interact.
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Totally agree- I was off work last week and so did my Dad a favour and took our two out for their lunchtime walks. When you throw a ball the one that doesn't get it chases and "fights" the other one, complete with growling (the ball gets ignored then!). This happens every walk and they both really enjoy it and there are never squabbles at home!

On Thursday some builders shouted from the road (there is an enclosed grassy area and there were no other dogs) asking if I was OK or needed help separating them. Whilst I appreciate the offer of help, it was obvious there was nothing wrong- I was laughing and continuing to throw the ball time and time again! :D

OP- hope the poor dog is OK!
 
poor dog....


but tbh if ANY dog ran upto me off lead in the dark - i would too react badly -

even in daylight and strange dogs runnninng upto me id be annoyed - how do i knw they arnt going to attack me and y dog?



let this be a lesson to both parties. just a bad shame that the poor dog had to suffer.
 
SusieT said:
I think the other lady is possibly in the wrong, as her dogs were also off lead, so for an off lead dog to approach them imo is not discourteous/out of order.
HOWEVER, the pup could well have taken a dislike to one of the dogs and been starting something. Who knows? The owner should have been close enough to stop it. TBH I don't think it all adds up as if she was close enough to see them clearly in her headlamp, why wasn't she close enough to intervene?
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closing the gate i guess
 
Oh, just another note and I hate to repeat myself, but with certain dogs and certain breeds of dogs, running in, shouting, screaming, kicking, is more likely to make them bite and more likely to make them hang on.
Lack of movement, lack of struggle, calm behaviour, and the 'prey' is much less interesting.
I know it is the natural *human* reaction to yell and try and hit or kick, but for a dog in a chase/prey drive (not that I think this puppy was, by the sounds of it) it is a totally different signal.
I have seen it myself in training with all types of dogs - a pretend kick swung, a switch waved around their flanks, a roared challenge, will make them hang on harder, not run away.
 
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