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A ex-racer thoroughbred. 16hh nearly 7 years old. To maintain and put on condition. Help with his windusucking and most likely ulcers. I believe feeds low in sugar and starch are the way to go. He is currently in 24/7 going out the odd day for a few hours. Soon to be out 24/7 hopefully. Hes currently fed 2 haynets a day, 2 x feeds: 1 scoop no 4 baileys, kwikbeet and alfa a oil.

Nutrionists or experienced people in diets fire away.
 
I would give ad lib hay, and replace the baileys with micronised linseed. Coligone is good for ulcers if you want something like that, and yea sacc is beneficial to digestion.
 
I think mine has ulcers, he is getting fast fibre,hifi molasses free a&p ride and relax, linseed, and ulcer calm plus ad lib haylage and is out in the field 9hrs
 
IN 24/7 :eek: why?

Anything with ulcers needs to trickle graze 24/7 so if he runs out of hay over night or during the day his stomach acid over produces and irritates the ulcers.

To give him a fairly substantial looking bucket feed is also upsetting to ulcers as horses stomachs arent designed to cope with a big meal then nothing.

Id have him on micronised linseed, as you only need a small amount to put on weight, and a handful of readigrass and activated charcoal which is helpful to some cribbers - living out 24.7 tends to help the stress factor with ex racers (i have one in my field!)

Is he on gastroguard?
 
I find baileys no 4 brilliant and wouldn't stop them. I also feed micro linseed with them but wouldn't drop the topline, iv tried as advised but my lad lost a lot off weight quickly. The topline keeps my lad looking nice
 
TigerTail said:
IN 24/7 :eek: why?

Anything with ulcers needs to trickle graze 24/7 so if he runs out of hay over night or during the day his stomach acid over produces and irritates the ulcers.

To give him a fairly substantial looking bucket feed is also upsetting to ulcers as horses stomachs arent designed to cope with a big meal then nothing.

Id have him on micronised linseed, as you only need a small amount to put on weight, and a handful of readigrass and activated charcoal which is helpful to some cribbers - living out 24.7 tends to help the stress factor with ex racers (i have one in my field!)

Is he on gastroguard?
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Its not through choice the fields have been too wet, its been for the past 2 months. Other than that hes been out and he went out yesterday for 3 hours. He will soon be out full time hopefully. He will also windsuck out in the field too so theres no different there between being in. Hes not on gastroguard as we dont have proof that he has ulcers. I would rather change his diet to help ease them. If he was scoped and had treatment surely he would just develop them again due to windsucking?
 
Wow linseed seems unanimous. He did have a bag of it last year but i stopped using it. However, I will now put him back on it. How much should I feed him?

So far I have been suggested simple systems, copra coolstance and coligone. What could I feed as a complete feed to ensure he gets everything he needs?
 
I'd get him scoped to confirm ulcers - if they are there they'll need to be treated. Masking the symptoms won't make them go away and meanwhile they'll continue to get worse.

You may find that if he has ulcers and they're treated, he won't need so much conditioning feed and the wind-sucking may stop on its own (may - I am aware that some horses do it out of habit).

I am a total convert to the Pure feed range and would recommend speaking to their nutritionists - all their feeds are high in fibre, include Profeed pre-biotic and brewers yeast for improved digestion, are free from molasses and are fully balanced with optimal levels of vitamins and minerals.
 
My vet is coming out in April for jabs so will talk about scoping then. Anyone had/has any experienced with Simple systems?
 
with an ulcer horse you need to keep the diet low sugar , low starch and cereal free , i would check your bailys for cereal content and perhaps replace with releve from saracen feeds , as others have said plenty of fibre/hay aswell . and always let them have a feed of chaff/ similar before riding /exercise as this will help absorb excess acid
 
I'm a massive fan of winergy feeds as they are low starch and high fibre, mines on the conditioning one but they have others available. My horses behaviour is so much better on their feed and he looks great on it. I agree that having him in all day won't help his ulcers either.
 
Get the ulcers diagnosed for proper treatment.
Pure feeds are excellent and will go though a diet plan with you.
Adlib hay.
As much turnout as possible, could you move to another yard which can provide this?
 
pure feeds i looked on there page and cant see any stockists in wiltshire. I am looking to use simple systems if anyone has experience with this?
 
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