What would you pay?

[Daisy1905]

A friend of mine has been sharing a horse which will be for sale soon. The owner hasn't said how much he wants yet...

He is is a 8 year old stallion with great breeding and San Amour bloodlines, amazing paces and can jump 1.30 easily. Training at Elementary level with basic lateral work( leg yields, shoulder in etc) however hasn't been to any shows yet. Easy to handle for a stallion. Not so good points, has got a couple of sarcoids and crib bites.

Also, has anyone got a stallion insured? I assume the insurance would ask for 5 stage and exclude sarcoids and possibly teeth issues?

 

[smja]

Personally, I wouldn't buy it. I don't mind stallions but often livery yards can be wary of them/impose ridiculous restrictions on handling and turnout. Sarcoids - a maybe, it would depend on where they are, if they've changed at all, what type they are. Cribbing - nope. Again, livery yards (understandably) are not fans of destructive behaviour. Potentially could be managed with collar/turnout but I wouldn't buy the hassle.

It really depends on what your friend wants to do with the horse - it's obviously talented, but needs to match her aims. if she wants to do competitive sj, it might be worth more to her than if she wants to do a bit of everything. Also, you say she's sharing - is she experienced enough to bring the horse on or will she want to pay someone to help?

TBH I reckon the owner will have a figure in mind - friend should just ask for ball park estimate, and decide if she likes the horse enough.

 

[Daisy1905]

Thank you, much appreciated

 

[ihatework]

I'd be paying less for it than I would be for the equivalent gelding.
Who would want a cribber with sarcoids, the hassle of managing a stallion, for what sounds to be an 8yo with no competition results.

To be honest Id have to really love the horse to buy it at all.

 

[ljohnsonsj]

I'd be paying less for it than I would be for the equivalent gelding.
Who would want a cribber with sarcoids, the hassle of managing a stallion, for what sounds to be an 8yo with no competition results.

To be honest Id have to really love the horse to buy it at all.

This. Having a stallion that isn't worth its weight as a stallion so to speak, is something that would be more of a con than a pro to me personally. Unless it was at the top of its game and breeding amazing foals then no, I would hate it as a stallion.
The horse doesn't sound all that great to be honest. Jumping 1.30 at home is different to a show and it is quite old to have no experience under it's belt. The sarcoids and cribbing would put me off so I think I'd leave this one and look for something else.

 

[Micropony]

I agree with others. Even if she gelds him now it's unlikely he will be able to go out safely in company with other horses, and with the cribbing and the sarcoids I suspect he will be a difficult horse to sell, and possibly worth a great deal less than the owner would like.

 

[Shay]

Horses (and anything else) are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. As others have said this isn't one likely to find an easy sale or to have a high value. But when our emotions come into play we can end up paying more than we should - or not walking away when we should. I'll bet the owner knows this and hopes to bargain on it.

 

[Starbucks]

We've had loads of horses and never had one have colic apart from the two who have cribbed who have both died of it, so I would never have another cribber just because it's not worth the heart ache! I know only anacdotal evidence but there has got to be a link imo.

Wouldn't even know how to value a stallion. Why hasn't he been gelded?

 

[eggs]

Has he been graded as a stallion? If yes, then he will have a higher value provided he is not infertile. Super bloodlines are worthless if he is not suitable for grading. In all honesty as eight year old with the only basics of schooling at Elementary with no competition record wouldn't have buyers falling over themselves to have him.