pinktiger
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Have a very tall lean 3yold that is on a stud bal at mo, he needs to go onto an adult supp/bal due to begining work and supporting his frame ect!! NE advice pls??
Whats best?? supplements or balancers, ne advice pls??
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air78
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I'd try him on top spec comp. as it's suitable for YS and older horses, Or on a complete feed like yearling cubes.
I'd be a bit cautious about staring to work him though if he's lean
I'd be a bit cautious about staring to work him though if he's lean
pinktiger
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have used topspec b4 n found it illuminated a little, he's lean on vets advice as he is tall and too much weight on him would cause extra strain on joints etc, i wouldnt want him ne leaner but deffo need to maintain what he is carrying
AmyMay
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I use a Redmills Balancer on my horse. It's cheaper than a lot out ther £16.00 a bag. But my horse is looking tremendous on it.
Interestingly I have also learnt that with some balancers you cannot feed sugar beat as it does give them a little sparkle. With the Redmills you can.....
Interestingly I have also learnt that with some balancers you cannot feed sugar beat as it does give them a little sparkle. With the Redmills you can.....
HBII
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What is the difference between a balancer and a supplement? Would sugar beet and say something like Super Codlivine give that extra sparkle?
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AmyMay
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I think that feeding a balancer works out cheaper ultimately - and you probably get better value for money.
I'm not sure about the the sugar beet and codlivine - I'm sure it's fine. But I've been told that the combination of some balancers with sugar beet ferment in the gut - so essentially the horse get's a little p*ssed
What is the difference between a balancer and a supplement? Would sugar beet and say something like Super Codlivine give that extra sparkle?Hb
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I think that feeding a balancer works out cheaper ultimately - and you probably get better value for money.
I'm not sure about the the sugar beet and codlivine - I'm sure it's fine. But I've been told that the combination of some balancers with sugar beet ferment in the gut - so essentially the horse get's a little p*ssed
AmyMay
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What is the difference between a balancer and a supplement? Would sugar beet and say something like Super Codlivine give that extra sparkle?Hb
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I think that feeding a balancer works out cheaper ultimately - and you probably get better value for money.
I'm not sure about the the sugar beet and codlivine - I'm sure it's fine. But I've been told that the combination of some balancers with sugar beet ferment in the gut - so essentially the horse get's a little p*ssed
This came from a source I respect hugely. But obviously can't attest to it's accuracy.
What is the difference between a balancer and a supplement? Would sugar beet and say something like Super Codlivine give that extra sparkle?Hb
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I think that feeding a balancer works out cheaper ultimately - and you probably get better value for money.
I'm not sure about the the sugar beet and codlivine - I'm sure it's fine. But I've been told that the combination of some balancers with sugar beet ferment in the gut - so essentially the horse get's a little p*ssed
This came from a source I respect hugely. But obviously can't attest to it's accuracy.
HBII
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I might give that Remills a go next time sounds cheaper than £15 a tub for codlivine .. not that we exactly need any oomp
Interesting/Worrying about gut reactions to some combintations.
Interesting/Worrying about gut reactions to some combintations.
TGM
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Personally, I feel the decision to feed either a balancer or a vit/min supplement depends on the rest of the horse's diet.
Firstly, if you are feeding the recommended amount of a commercial cube or mix then you shouldn't need to add a balancer or vit/min supplement because the cube/mix should supply all the nutrients the horse needs. However, this is not the case if you just feed a handful of the cube/mix in which case extra supplementation will be required.
Broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplements usually just contain vit/mins in a powder or liquid base. Some brands might have some added oil like Benevit.
Balancers contain the vit/mins PLUS a protein source. They usually also contain probiotics (which are meant to aid the digestion of fibre). Often contain oil as well for extra calories and coat shine. Originally, they were designed to balance the diet when hay was fed, without feeding large amounts of hard feed. THe protein content of hay is sometimes lower than that required in the horse's diet. Traditionally cereal feeds were given to boost the protein levels in the diet, but often supplied an excess of calories. Balancers provide a concentrated form of protein and nutrients which balances the hay without providing an excess of calories.
The horse on good grazing or being fed good quality haylage or excellent hay will probably have a sufficient amount of protein in the diet, so a balancer is not necessary for that purpose, and a vit/min supplement is probably most appropriate.
For horses fed on hay and not much hard feed, then a balancer would be the obvious choice, for the reasons given above.
Firstly, if you are feeding the recommended amount of a commercial cube or mix then you shouldn't need to add a balancer or vit/min supplement because the cube/mix should supply all the nutrients the horse needs. However, this is not the case if you just feed a handful of the cube/mix in which case extra supplementation will be required.
Broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplements usually just contain vit/mins in a powder or liquid base. Some brands might have some added oil like Benevit.
Balancers contain the vit/mins PLUS a protein source. They usually also contain probiotics (which are meant to aid the digestion of fibre). Often contain oil as well for extra calories and coat shine. Originally, they were designed to balance the diet when hay was fed, without feeding large amounts of hard feed. THe protein content of hay is sometimes lower than that required in the horse's diet. Traditionally cereal feeds were given to boost the protein levels in the diet, but often supplied an excess of calories. Balancers provide a concentrated form of protein and nutrients which balances the hay without providing an excess of calories.
The horse on good grazing or being fed good quality haylage or excellent hay will probably have a sufficient amount of protein in the diet, so a balancer is not necessary for that purpose, and a vit/min supplement is probably most appropriate.
For horses fed on hay and not much hard feed, then a balancer would be the obvious choice, for the reasons given above.
pinktiger
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tgm yr a star!! thats what i wanted to hear!! my horse has v good quality hayledge ad lib!! so i could feed a good (Hoof kind)chaff and a supplement (cant feed sugabeet hes had a tieback) n he should b covered