Wheaten terriers?

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Anyone got one? Thinking of getting a second dog as sadly our rottie won't be with us forever, and my OH and I have very different ideas of what dog we might want, but what I am after is medium sized, fun loving, good companion, good with other dogs, cats and kids (I know that is largely down to socialisation!). He would like a mastiff (well, a boer boel to be precise)! Which whilst lovely, isn't desperately practical. I am planning to go back onto a yard where dog can accompany me in the spring, and would also like to do some agility or similar for a bit of fun! My rott did some when he was younger but had a cruciate op when he was 6 so obviously hasn't done any after that!
 
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Anyone got one? Thinking of getting a second dog as sadly our rottie won't be with us forever, and my OH and I have very different ideas of what dog we might want, but what I am after is medium sized, fun loving, good companion, good with other dogs, cats and kids (I know that is largely down to socialisation!). He would like a mastiff (well, a boer boel to be precise)! Which whilst lovely, isn't desperately practical. I am planning to go back onto a yard where dog can accompany me in the spring, and would also like to do some agility or similar for a bit of fun! My rott did some when he was younger but had a cruciate op when he was 6 so obviously hasn't done any after that!
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Why not another Rottie? Maybe a Beauceron?

SCWT are headbangers with a coat that sucks up mud. Why a softcoat & not a beardie?

Why a Boerboel & not a Great Dane?

Need to know a bit more of what is behind the choices to give suggestions.
 
I want something smaller than a rott, I can't lift mine and that has recently been a more noticeable problem!
Boer boel - he is South African and had one as a child. Great Dane - lovely but way too big and very short lived :(
Beardie - bearded collie? Most collies I have known have been somewhat hyper? But tbh they have mostly been borders.... I like the OES but OH not keen on their 'look' - he's mega fussy, i would have a lab or staff any day but he doesn't like either!
 
Again - I like, he doesn't! Met a few aggressive ones in SA as a kid and has tarnished his view. Also poss looking smaller than that really as my folks need to be able to loon after dog in an emergency and both a well the wrong side of retirement age, and would struggle with anything as bigger than their pointer and the ridgeback a I have met are quite big? Incidentally he is also pretty adamant he wants a dog not a bitch, I don't mind either way!
 
Lol @ horseylad - they aren't overly tall, just ridiculously wide and muscular!! My concern is holding into it if it takes a while to learn to walk at heel!! They can be 50/60 kg at a year old!
 
I've met some rather aggressive Boerboels and some soppy ridgebacks.
Ridgebacks are about the same size as a pointer.
Do you like bulldogs?
Why doesn't he like staffies?

Can you cope with frequent grooming? A standard or large mini poodle perhaps or maybe an Irish Water Spaniel? All are easier to groom than a SCWT :)
 
I do like bulldogs, but wouldn't have a British as just think the health issues are so sad :(
He doesn't like the 'look' of the broader staff, we have a friend with a ridgeback x staff who we both love but he does get mistaken for a pit bull! I like pit bulls tbh but obv aren't allowed one of them!
I'm not a fan of poodles, love the personality of the standard but the pointy face doesn't really do it for me, shallow I know.
Grooming not a major issue, grew up with Persian cats :)
 
Grooming Persian cats is not the same as a larger, hairy, dog that gets muddy even thought the daily commitment is there.
Tibetan terrier?
Of course you can trim a poodle any style you want -it doesn't have to have a clipped face. I did one in a variation of a Lakeland terrier trim for years.
 
Hmm, any thoughts on labradoodles? Guessing they aren't massively popular on HHO but despite the fact I've always been a bit dismissive of the 'designer' breeds, they look as if might have quite a few of the traits we would like?
 
Like shedding, HD, pra, - they can have all the traits you don't like in poodles and grow as big as a Rottie.

No good reason to breed them - just a sign of ignorance of existing breeds.

What about the PWD?
 
Actually the PWD was a possibility we mentioned before - any experience of their personality? Presume you would think they are less hyper than the wheaten?
 
I had a wheaten for working, he was great at his job but very aggressive with other dogs. He ended up biting my friends whippet out ferreting one day and made **** of it. I had to have him pts after that.
 
My own opinions aside about wheaties, I would prefer to see someone get a wheaten than an exotic breed just for the sake of preserving the British (and Irish) breeds that are dying out in favor for "imports" and designer cross breeds. However, I haven't got to live with them. Its just a shame that there are so many lovely british breeds that are disappearing because things like mix-a-doodles and chihs and the like are seen as more desireable, perhaps just because their "different".
 
Well, with opinions above in hand, had yet another debate last night and think I *may* have won and convinced my OH that a staffie is the ideal dog for us (well, me as I am primary care giver!) I know they can be full on as well but I am looking for a dog that will go pretty much everywhere with me and will be at yard twice a day plus a walk plus long walks at weekends (when old enough) and if well behaved/trainable enough can go with OH when he goes cycling, and out hacking with me and the horses. So there is plenty of exercise on offer and I'd like to do some obedience/agility training too, so with that plus the fact OH grew up with a boer boel as a child then had his own Rottweiler (which he worked security with in S.Africa) and our own Rott as a couple, I think we are fairly well equipped to meet the demands of a staff :)
 
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