When a gelding might not be a gelding

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Would you be concerned if you purchased a 18 month old gelding that started acting riggy. Then to discover there is no record in his passport of him actually being gelded? Vet booked for blood tests but wonder if it common for breeders to forget to get passports marked or if I should be concerned that someone dodgy done it and didn't do it well?
 
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Would you be concerned if you purchased a 18 month old gelding that started acting riggy. Then to discover there is no record in his passport of him actually being gelded? Vet booked for blood tests but wonder if it common for breeders to forget to get passports marked or if I should be concerned that someone dodgy done it and didn't do it well?
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presumably passport just says "colt"? Maybe they just didnt send it away to get it changed. the vet did not put anything in the passport of mine, the only thing i had to do was send a letter to the passport people with the passport and said he was gelded. Best to get the vet to check it out.
 
I don't have it with me. But I don't think it says colt, will double check. But did notice there was a box for the vet to complete, like with vaccinations but its not been completed. So just a thought I've had
 
No idea what breed he is, but with the WPCS it should be stamped by the vet to say he was gelded, infact when ive had mine done if they arent with the WPCS i still get the vet to make a note in the passport of when it was gelded & then stamp it. It saves an queries in the future with new owners.
I would contact the previous owner & see when they say he was gelded & who gelded him, its not unheard of for people to sell geldings that are infact still colts. If their nuts havnt dropped yet i guess its easy to get away with.
 
Haha yeh there is nothing down there that would make him appear to be a colt. He's fine with most mares its just one he can't seem to live without. And she's I. Season at the moment and he started rearing in hand when I took him away I bought him from his breeder so will speak to her and see what info I can get
 
Could be passport not sent off (we have a few of thesewhich must go off in a batch soon) or could be they hadn't dropped when vet went. We had one drop later than that so just because it's not obvious don't rely on this.
 
My ex racer's Weatherbys passport says Colt and someone has just crossed it out and handwritten 'Gelding'. There's no info as to when he was gelded but looking between his legs, I can see that he has been!
(he's 12 now and had him since he was 5 so assume it was done when he turned out to be c**p on the track after 'they' had descended)
 
You have to be writing about my horse? I tried to taken him back to the field yesterday between 2 excited mares, which lead to me spending the afternoon in a&e. he is a known rearer when stressed. He turned in at me reared up boxed at my face, hitting me in the cheek. I'm pretty sure the mares at my place might be in season too
 
So passport shows him as a gelding. Was raised when he was 10 momthS. So perhaps this was done at the time of him being gelded? Next step to call the vets to confirm
 
Lots of geldings will act up around in season mares and also get very attached to them. If there are no testicles, then I really wouldn't worry.
 
Yep, just about to write what wagtail did. My boy has always been pretty good but he has times where he acts like an idiot. Just a young boy thing!!
 
But when they get dangerous rearing uncontrollably, bolting to get back to the mares? Injuring the handler? It's worth checking? I have known other silly geldings in the past but haven't seem them hurt the handler
 
My boy's nuts didn't drop til he was 3 so he was a very late gelding. He doesn't act differently with mares at all, even in season. The most he will do is look at them with his ears pricked! Guess you can have naughty early gelds just as you can have good late ones, but might be worth asking the vet to check it was done properly. I'm just thinking of a previous thread on here where the castration wasn't done properly, as only one nut was removed. Could have happened with your boy, worth checking imho.
 
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But when they get dangerous rearing uncontrollably, bolting to get back to the mares? Injuring the handler? It's worth checking? I have known other silly geldings in the past but haven't seem them hurt the handler
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yep just looked back and saw about rearing! Mine gets wound up if he walks up the track past the school and sees ponies running but spins and rushes and half rears. Never had a problem getting him to lead away from his female fieldmate though. Worth getting it checked to be on safe side :D good luck!
 
He's normally fine has tantrums which i do expect from a upung boy thats being asked to do something he dorsnt understand but isn't normally so bad. He belongs to a livery who is also a close friend and he is on full livery so as we are handling someone else's horse we don't want to risk ourselves unnecessarily My friend is very embarrassed and luckily willing to do what she can. But feel she's worried she's been sold a rig. Fingers crossed our local trainer will help if he doesn't turn out to be a rig and just an excited little mannerless boy
 
Have you checked if you can see the scars on his undercarriage from when he was gelded? It's not rare for testicles not to have dropped by 18 months though.
 
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