When is enough ........ Enough ........ Gastric ulcers

Do you mean in terms of treatment/management or money? I always thought that Gastric Ulcers could be treated. I didn't realise that they couldn't. If a horse has received treatment and is still exhibiting signs then personally I would think that maybe there is another cause but I have no experience of these with my horse so I'm probably not best qualified to say.
 
Ulcers are all about cure then management. If a horse has re-occuring ulcers then cure and medication need to be re-looked at before tackling a different routine/management for the horse to stop the cause or protect them in the future. I wasn't aware ulcers could be an ongoing issue forever.
 
MTBTLT said:
Ulcers are all about cure then management. If a horse has re-occuring ulcers then cure and medication need to be re-looked at before tackling a different routine/management for the horse to stop the cause or protect them in the future. I wasn't aware ulcers could be an ongoing issue forever.
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It's a misconception that reoccurring ulcers are all about management .
I learnt this the hard way with my lovely Goldenstar she had hideous reoccurring ulcers despite having not one management related risk factor for ulcers and being not in any way a worrier she has severe ulcers .
Thousands of pounds of gastrogard later they where worse than when we started .
In many horses ulcers are secondary to another issue with GS we never found what it was ,in the end I put her to sleep without knowing what was wrong .
My worst horsey disaster I still can't think about her without being upset .
 
One thing that always fascinates me about equine ulcer treatment is the complete absence of antibiotics. In humans most ulcers are linked to H. pylori bacteria and treatment is triple therapy - 2 antibiotics and omeprazole. Almost all mammels have been shown to have a version of h. pylori so it stands to reason they are probably partly the cause in horses, esp those with recurrent ulcers and those who have ulcers despite correct management.
 
There might be an underlying reason. Mine had ulcers that utterly failed to respond to treatment. Back was xrayed - KS which has now been treated. Much happier horse. Mine is also on aloeride which has transformed him.

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There has been a lot of research done and h. pylori is apparently not an issue in horses.

Pain is though. Recurring ulcers with no management problems? Find the pain. If you can.

mynutmeg said:
One thing that always fascinates me about equine ulcer treatment is the complete absence of antibiotics. In humans most ulcers are linked to H. pylori bacteria and treatment is triple therapy - 2 antibiotics and omeprazole. Almost all mammels have been shown to have a version of h. pylori so it stands to reason they are probably partly the cause in horses, esp those with recurrent ulcers and those who have ulcers despite correct management.
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Two of my horses had to have antibiotics with gastrogard to shift stubborn ulcers around the exit of the stomach .
 
Goldenstar said:
Two of my horses had to have antibiotics with gastrogard to shift stubborn ulcers around the exit of the stomach .
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Was that long ago? Current research seems to suggest that bacteria play no role in equine ulcers, so I'm thinking that was maybe before they knew that horse ulcers weren't like human ones?
 
As others have said there is usually an underlying pain related reason. Also Gastroguard and some ulcer supplements do not treat hind gut acidosis and can make it worse.
 
ycbm said:
There has been a lot of research done and h. pylori is apparently not an issue in horses.

Pain is though. Recurring ulcers with no management problems? Find the pain. If you can.



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Interesting - thanks. Would be interested in the reasearch
 
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