when to call it a day

Oh come on you lot, some of these posts are terrible!

Sounds like he's a had a nasty fright and is the sensitive type.

Firstly, have you tried to sit on him bareback? I break all mine bareback on the yard not in the school with my tall experienced friend holding them. I get on, lay over over then climb on keeping low, then walk round in a tight circle till they settle. If they are in a tight circle they can't get the forwards speed up to dump you and their head is set in the position my handler puts it in.

I suggest you watch some of the breaking videos here-

http://www.youtube.com/user/endospink?blend=1&ob=4&rclk=cti

they will tell you an awful lot about how to safely break a horse in thats a bit difficult.

I would also do a lot of work with you on blocks around him, before I back mine they are all used to tacking up and walking round me on the mounting block. I like to have them standing there, holding one rein while i move round in all sorts of silly ways, dance about, jump up and down and then slowly progress to leaning over. I have NEVER had a problem with any of my youngsters with a mounting issue. They all learn to stand at the block within the first week and let me mount without moving. I have been known to have the more difficult ones in the school on a lunge line while I stand on a jump block walking round and round till they give up and just stand next to me for over 2 hours.

On a nervous horse I do not think a dummy, sack of spuds ect. is in any way good for the horse. A dead weight is completely different to a live one. You just need to move at your horses own pace, not rush him and get him used to seeing you over his back. Agree very much with riding and leading, its a great way of getting them used to a rider above.

Continue with the long reining and lunging at the same time, but a leaning over session can be different to a session in tack, ie one at one end of the day the other at the other. i also find difficult horses find it easier to digest the information in small bits like this, ie. they may lunge or long rein in tack but be backed bareback, so when the two do eventualy come together it makes more sense to the horse.
 
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