When will employers come into the 21st century?

honetpot said:
Even on a zero hours contract you are on PAYE, your know your hourly rate and you are entitled to holiday pay. You have a contract, you do not have to work.
I have worked like this so I know. You can add your holiday pay fortnightly,or take as a lump sum.
Working in a supermarket will pay minimum wage, without the risks and a chance to earn more if you want.
When I left school I worked as a groom, I earned £3 a week pocket money, but I had a nice warm cottage, all bills paid, all the food I could eat, a lesson most days, and even some clothes provided. I learnt more in six months than most people would learn in two years of college. Even at sixteen although my passion was horses I realised it was not something that was sustainable long term.
Cleaners, gardeners, dog walkers etc earn at least £12ph and some more. For the job advertised as self employed I would be asking at least £15ph or a session rate.
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Not all cleaners charge at least £12ph. I am a cleaner/gardener and I charge £11ph and have recently seen an advert in the village shop (where I clean for 5 customers) for a cleaner charging £10ph. I was originally going to increase my charges last November after 3 years at the same rate, but what with the uncertainty over brexit and that advert they have remained at £11ph. That is despite me being totally honest, reliable and hardworking and having a waiting list.
 
I do sometimes wonder if the smallish DIY yards where the liveries are subsiding the YOs own horses or where the owner has a “normal” job & the yard is secondary or where they want the company of the liveries / extra security of more people being about actually don’t WANT to make a profit (as then they’d have to pay more tax etc) & are just happy to vaguely break even. This of course makes it awkward for anyone who IS trying to run it as their main business to charge a realistic fee & still compete on price
 
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