Where can I get linseed oil in it's base form?

[CrimsonDivine]

Does anyone know? And no I don't want feed recommendations that contain it, I want to knoww where can I buy linseed oil? And please don't say things like "use google" I'm asking here to those who already buy it and already know. If you don't know please don't give unhelpful responses.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Well, I think I’ve seen it on the shelves at my local feed merchant.

Though I didn’t buy it myself, which was a stipulation of your rather rude request, so no doubt my answer will be dismissed as irrelevant.

I feed Charnwoods micronised linseed powder to my 3. It is readily available from a few suppliers if you google .

 

[Clodagh]

https://www.flaxfarm.co.uk/linseed-products/linseed-for-horses/

 

[Tiddlypom]

Oh, and don’t buy the linseed oil used for oiling cricket bats, pretty sure that says it’s toxic. We do have that here.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Ah yes, I hadn’t seen the previous posts. OP got his knickers in a twist over perfectly sensible advice and replies from forum regulars on his previous thread. The moderators have pulled one of his replies.

And you're nothing but a troll and a pest, must be how you got such a high comment count, probably filled most of this forum with your nonsense and ill-mannered responses. Well I'm done with the likes of you, go bother someone else. Blocked.

 

[Micky]

I recommend using charnwoods micronised linseed over oil, more economical and most horses eat it happily

 

[CrimsonDivine]

https://www.flaxfarm.co.uk/linseed-products/linseed-for-horses/

Thanks for the link.

I recommend using charnwoods micronised linseed over oil, more economical and most horses eat it happily

Thanks, I'll look into this.

 

[Quigleyandme]

I could advise you but I won’t because I find the vitriol it provokes from you extremely unpleasant.

 

[MuddyMonster]

I could advise you but I won’t because I find the vitriol it provokes from you extremely unpleasant.

Very wise I answered on the previous post and giving an answer was apparently too literal ...

 

[CrimsonDivine]

Very wise I answered on the previous post and giving an answer was apparently too literal ...

Well you pretty much described the feed you use, which matches just about Every beet feed out there, which didn't narrow down which one you use. Thus not answering the question as it was inclined thus wasn't very helpful. I honestly can't see why you act so innocent in all this and I'll say it again.. if I didn't know better I'd say that response was trying to be a smart ass and sorry to say but I don't appreciate such immature humour if that was the case.

 

[CrimsonDivine]

Well I got my answer and I've ordered some micronised linseed samples. Thanks again for the tips

 

[Goldenstar]

I buy linseed oil from Mole .

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

Anyone would think that linseed oil was hard to get hold of, every feed shop I've ever been into stocks it. And supermarkets stock flaxseed oil, which is exactly the same.

 

[ycbm]

Well I got my answer and I've ordered some micronised linseed samples. Thanks again for the tips

So, having said that you want linseed oil only, and not recommendations of food that contains it, you've now taken Micky's recommendation and bought the food that contains it?

Jolly good job they ignored your instructions.
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[CrimsonDivine]

So, having said that you want linseed oil only, and not recommendations of food that contains it, you've now taken Micky's recommendation and bought the food that contains it?

Jolly good job they ignored your instructions.
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Oil and cooked seed aren't that far apart and between and no it wasn't a "feed" recommendation, it's just linseed in a different form. To be frank being "oil" wasn't really that important. So yes, I did take Micky's recommendation as it was most helpful and enlightening and infact after speaking to companies that sell both, they too would generally recommend cooked seed over oil. For starters it's more natural and enjoyable for the horse, unless of course it has a problem with chewing therefor oil would then be the most suitable solution to that problem. Either way, linseed is linseed no matter what form it comes in. I just didn't want a "feed" recommendation as it was to add to his feed, not to change it to something else.

Got to love a smart allick who think they know it all when clearly they don't. I honestly don't get why you get off on this kind of thing but truthfully? I find it histerical how you all get so bent out of shape when put in your place or told that your nonsense isn't appreciated or welcome. Must think you're really special I suppose. It's really petty and rather sad to be honest. Do you honestly have nothing better to do? I assume you do own horses? Despite the pandemic you can still go and see those. Unless of course you're actually sick but then I wouldn't imagine you'd have the energy to do so. Doesn't justify the behaviour on here though. Also, speaking of, I react to those who are nasty, ignorant and bitter toward me in such manner as I don't just take people's crap and let them treat me as a punching bag. Fight fire with fire as they say. So, in reality, if you've got a problem with me, it's generally you that is the problem from the start. Food for thought, pun intended. Don't like it? don't patronise and provoke and give me comments like these, it's really that simple.

 

[ycbm]

If you haven't fed linseed before, CD, I would introduce it carefully and watch your horse's behaviour. I have one which is intolerant of both alfalfa and linseed and if fed either turns into a mad lunatic waving his front paws in the air (and on one day down on the top of my head! ) This reaction is not common, but also not unheard of, there have been several threads about it in recent years.
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[CrimsonDivine]

If you haven't fed linseed before, CD, I would introduce it carefully and watch your horse's behaviour. I have one which is intolerant of both alfalfa and linseed and if fed either turns into a mad lunatic waving his front paws in the air (and on one day down on the top of my head! ) This reaction is not common, but also not unheard of, there have been several threads about it in recent years.
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind. Have to say he's had alfafa for several months now and has had no issue with that. Adding linseed because it was recommended to help gain weight and/or conditioning? Frankly I never used the stuff before and was under impression that flax was just a plant people used for making cloth so having it as a food supplement is a new one to me.. The more you know I suppose.

 

[ester]

Oil and micronized linseed are quite different. I wouldn't feed oil, I have fed micronized for years.

In the interests of more info not all cooked linseed is the same, and the method of cooking alters the sugar/starch content. Charnwoods have the only IR micronizer in the country and I only feed theirs (though it is often rebranded so worth checking).

Lucky someone was brave enough to go off piste.

 

[Lots of Gift Bags]

Oil and micronized linseed are quite different. I wouldn't feed oil, I have fed micronized for years.

In the interests of more info not all cooked linseed is the same, and the method of cooking alters the sugar/starch content. Charnwoods have the only IR micronizer in the country and I only feed theirs (though it is often rebranded so worth checking).

Lucky someone was brave enough to go off piste.

That's interesting ester, why wouldn't you feed oil?

 

[Tiddlypom]

Not all linseed meal is the same, either. I started a thread on that a few years ago, after I inadvertently ordered Marriages cooked linseed meal instead of Charnwoods micronised linseed. Though bizarrely Marriages sell it as ‘cooked’, but go on to claim in their blurb that it is ‘micronised’.

The senior mare had the final say. She refused to eat the Marriages linseed, which smelled of stale digestive biscuits, and I ended up tipping it onto the muck heap.

https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/linseed-cooked-vs-micronised-any-difference.753726/

There's a big difference in starch too 10.9% for marriages, 3.7% for Charnwood.

 

[ester]

Oi stop copying me TP
iirc I think I emailed marriages about it.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Oi stop copying me TP
iirc I think I emailed marriages about it.

Ah, you provided the background, but my senior mare did a blind taste test .

(Not a double blind trial, as I knew what I was feeding her, but I made sure that she didn’t see the packaging ).

 

[CrimsonDivine]

Not all linseed meal is the same, either. I started a thread on that a few years ago, after I inadvertently ordered Marriages cooked linseed meal instead of Charnwoods micronised linseed. Though bizarrely Marriages sell it as ‘cooked’, but go on to claim in their blurb that it is ‘micronised’.

The senior mare had the final say. She refused to eat the Marriages linseed, which smelled of stale digestive biscuits, and I ended up tipping it onto the muck heap.

https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/threads/linseed-cooked-vs-micronised-any-difference.753726/

I'm pretty sure it can be both. Mirconised simply means broken down for better consumption, this doesn't mean they didn't cook it first. Alot of micronised linseed seem to say "cooked" in it's title, I'd have reason to believe it's both cooked and micronised, no real reason why not if you ask me.

 

[ester]

No, Micronization in this instance (note the z) is a very definite process involving IR, not micronisation.

All covered in very long discussion on here before if you want to search them.

I mean obviously if you're not interested it doesn't matter, but they are importantly different processes.

 

[CrimsonDivine]

*sighs* https://www.britishhorsefeeds.com/micronised_cooked_linseed.php As stated uses both words in the title, both apply to this product.

MicroniZed/MircroniZation is merely the American spelling of MicroniSed/MicroniSation, it means the same thing.

Micronization =/= Micronised https://www.thefreedictionary.com/micronised

Honestly? I'm surprised considering Horse & Hound is primarely publishes their magazine in the UK that this spelling is even being used let alone being disputed, as I have no doubt that most of you are British, but whatever..
Also being micronised most certaily doesn't make any difference to whether the seeds were cooked or not beforehand. I say "cooked beforehand" as micronisation may cause a difference of whether or not it could be burnt easily if it were the other way around, which I'm sure it could. So logically one would cook first then brake it down (micronise) thereafter. It's just a technical term for doing so.
This may be where you are missing the concept of the purpose and misunderstanding whether or not it is or can be cooked over micronising, again whatever. Knowledge is power as they say. So is logical common sense if you ask me.

 

[The Xmas Furry]

OP, I really wouldn't accuse ester of missing the concept or misunderstanding, most definitely not.

Btw, if we are getting picky, its primarily

 

[ester]

I'm aware of americanised spelling, in this case it is because this is the term used in the industry for this particular process- Using IR not 'just cooking'.

But I won't continue to repeat myself, I have given you the information if you want to ignore my factual information crack on. Even if you say knowledge is power and I'm just trying to impart some, to help you make decisions regarding feeding.
I'm not going to stress about you not believing me

 

[Tiddlypom]

Not for the OP, who is clearly not interested, but FGI.

http://www.micronizing.com/?page_id=106


Infra Red Micronizing is a patented, dry thermal process. Infra red energy was discovered in 1800 by Herschel and the Micronizing process is concerned with infra red wavelengths of 1,8 – 3,4 microns (Micronizing Company’s name was derived from this unit of measurement which describes the infra red wavelength)

Infra Red Micronizing is a ‘short time, high temperature’ cooking process. Cereals, oil seeds, beans and pulses are all heated in a matter of seconds, without significant moisture loss. In cereal grains, for example, a surface temperature of 100ºC is achieved in 35 seconds.

 

[criso]

https://www.charnwoodmilling.co.uk/horse_specs/micronized whole linseed.htm

If you look at the Charnwood site, it's Micronized®, the registered trademark symbol indicating their own patented process.

This results is slight differences in starch and fibre content compared to others

Cross posted TP

 

[ester]

where on earth is the R on here lol