Where did all the Piebalds and Skewbalds go?

Mines a skewbald (or bay tabiano as his passport says!) but actually, I always think of the "quality" types to be coloured, and the pony types as piebald or skewbald?! Strange, but mainly because I think of the competition horse types as "eventers, Sjers" etc, and ponies just as their colouring....
 
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Anyway, back to the question, do you think that by advertising a horse as coloured would make it more valuable than advertising it as piebald/skewbald?
 
Probably. But only because of simple folks who think they are "up" on the lingo!
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QR: Wow - that generated a lot of replies!

Anyway, back to the question, do you think that by advertising a horse as coloured would make it more valuable than advertising it as piebald/skewbald?

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Sorry, i dont like to hijack, but she is a very nice filly

I think it would be sad if that were the case, that the word 'coloured' made them more valuable
I am not sure if this is the case, but its the popular term now, i rarely hear someone refer in the old school way
I think it is due to the large horses being bred with colour, i don't suppose the old terms go so well with warmbloods
Thus on saying that, maybe it is the case that 'coloured's' fetch more money due to what they have become, not what i grew up knowing, if that makes sense
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QR: Wow - that generated a lot of replies!

Anyway, back to the question, do you think that by advertising a horse as coloured would make it more valuable than advertising it as piebald/skewbald?

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I would say not necessarily because it may depend on what terminology the buyer prefers
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I think generally people either like coloureds or they don't so wouldn't necessarily care how it were described.
 
Thinking about it.... do you think is signifies less of an importance on the actual colour itself, and more on the identity of the type of horse?! In years gone by, piebalds and skewbalds were precisely that, there were very few which were "sports horses" or "competition" horses, they were generally just run of the mill piebalds or skewbalds. Now they are being refined as competion horses etc, do you think it has become just part of their description, instead of their "full" description, and so now it is more generalised?!
 
Not read the whole thread, but I think that coloured horses were un-trendy, then trendy and now maybe they are just the same as a any other colour - as KatB said 10 years ago it would be rare to see a coloured at the top of it's sport, but now they are allover it so the same as any other horse.
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Personally, if I were looking for a new horse I would not even consider its colour (OK maybe not a grey as I had five on the trot (Holly excluded as she kept herself super clean!!)). Surely unless you were into showing or breeding where colour would be a consideration, do people really go out and buy a horse only of a specific colour? Surely the horse itself and whether it suits your needs is more important, which is why I can't understand the loss of piebalds and skewbalds.
 
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Personally, if I were looking for a new horse I would not even consider its colour (OK maybe not a grey as I had five on the trot (Holly excluded as she kept herself super clean!!)). Surely unless you were into showing or breeding where colour would be a consideration, do people really go out and buy a horse only of a specific colour? Surely the horse itself and whether it suits your needs is more important, which is why I can't understand the loss of piebalds and skewbalds.

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I'd go with that. We were think Welsh D preferably a Chesnut Mare when we found Sparks, so certainly weren't looking for a coloured and definately not a Piebald!!!
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Mine, picture far right in siggie is classed as a Bay Tobiano. Her body and face colouring is brown and white. But she has a black mane (some white), tail. Hardly any white marking on her face.
 
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Surely unless you were into showing or breeding where colour would be a consideration, do people really go out and buy a horse only of a specific colour?

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Yes they do, which is why I only have buckskins, palominos, grullas, greys and paints as selling horses. I can even tell you which colour is the most popular - it is buckskin
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. Most people I have dealings with are very specific about the colours they want - not one of them shows, these are simply pleasure horses. I can see their point of view mind you, even though it seemed strange to me at first, but they want the whole kitten-kaboodle, colour included and it is possible to have that here; super bloodlines, nice conformation and the colour of their choice. It's quite normal to me now to hear this and that's why I cater to these people; I personally don't see it as any more strange now than someone wanting a 15.2hh or a gelding or a shortbacked horse or a kind temperament. If you can have it all, then why not; that's what I say.
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My own personal horses are sorrel, bay roan tobiano and palomino ... not through choice, just happened to be the best horses for me, which I chose to keep rather than sell on.
 
Pretty useless fact here if anyone is interested - true tri-coloured horses are extremely rare, if found at all; most do not have any black on their brown and white bodies so they are not tri coloured. Manes, tails and points do not count as body colours and therefore these horses are not registered as tri-colour but rather their predominant body colours.
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what about their legs? or is that a black point!?

I personally describe him as a skewbald if anyone asks but I have been corrected and told he was a tri?! He was advertised as a Tri!
 
SN and I went to see a couple of stallions and I am sure one of them was classed as tri although to me is was similar colour to Thalie's, skewbald in my book.
 
Nope black points don't count with breed registries. Only body colours and you never see black, white and brown body colours altogether on one horse.

I also have 2 horses which I also class as (incorrectly) tri-coloured tobianos ... if it makes you feel any better.
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And to make matters worse, I also have a roan tri-coloured tobiano.
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It will be a bay tobiano not tri-coloured if the black is not on the body. A bay has black points, mane and tail hence the correct colour for the horse if it is a tobiano, will be registered as bay tobiano. In my breed society (and all others I've looked at) there is no facility to register tri-coloured because there isn't really such a thing.
 
Lol!! I'll let you call them skewbald if you like
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. Doesn't matter to me to be honest, I am just into the correct names because I register them so you get into that "talk" if you know what I mean.
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Do you remember my Pink Pony?? The tall AQHA? Well I bought him back in the Autumn and although he is burgundy now, he will be pink again. The one above is the daddy of my homebred babies - most photos of him he looks like a regular brown tobiano ... or in your words skewbald
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SN and I went to see a couple of stallions and I am sure one of them was classed as tri although to me is was similar colour to Thalie's, skewbald in my book.

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We did indeed and for the life of me I can't think of their names
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the lady who said piebald is black and white and any other clour and white is skewbald is right. I think coloured is just easier to say (saves working out which is which) and is a generalisation. Sad to see the traditional, correct words disappearing isn't it.
 
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