Where Do I Stand? Breach of Loan Contract

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Sorry to hear whats happened.

But can i also just point out that i hope you are doing everything possible to inform your farmer whos helping, of Laminitis and that your horse is not out in a field full of grass - my vet has had several cases within this month of attacks.. one including mine. I just warn you to please take as many precautions as you can to help prevent another attack.
 
bensababy said:
Sorry to hear whats happened.

But can i also just point out that i hope you are doing everything possible to inform your farmer whos helping, of Laminitis and that your horse is not out in a field full of grass - my vet has had several cases within this month of attacks.. one including mine. I just warn you to please take as many precautions as you can to help prevent another attack.
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Don't worry I am :) I'm very paranoid now lol
He's going out in a small field with not much grass just for a few hours per day. I already negociated the field luckily the day before I spoke to him on the phone about them looking after him, so I know which field it is thankfully.

When I go home I have to section him off a piece and hope he stays in it as there is no electricity! He's usually very respective of electric fencing (on or not) so hopefully he has remained so.
 
JackDaniels1 said:
Get the horse back. Write her a 14 day letter asking for a reimbursement saying that if she doesn't respond within 14 days you will have no alternative but to make a small claim against her. If she doesn't reply, then it is up to you whether you want to actually take it to the small claims court or not.
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I second this - tell her if you get your money back you won't take it any further - it she is funny about it I'd report her to the RSPCA (I know they a seldom very good but it may just cause a bit of trouble for her)
 
Sheri said:
I second this - tell her if you get your money back you won't take it any further - it she is funny about it I'd report her to the RSPCA (I know they a seldom very good but it may just cause a bit of trouble for her)
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True, what do you think is the first step I should take in the money and RSPCA situation?
I won't do all this until I get him home but it's good to know!

I've got a TON of witnesses at the yard who say he was being neglected by her. The farmer had words with her apparantly a couple of times. I wish they'd had my number before and I would have done something about it sooner.
 
If there are other people there who care about him, and a helpful farmer, would it be worth you paying his livery where he is until the 14th and asking / paying someone responsible there to look after him until then, it isn't long and you might find someone happy to earn a few £s whilst down there doing their own horse. And definitely ban the loaner from having anything to do with him. So sorry you are in a mess, these things can be heartbreaking.
 
So glad youv'e got it sorted, please please don't think everyone is like your loanee. I have been looking for a horse to loan for a while but haven't found one yet and I can assure you any animal would have the best of homes so please bear in mind not everyone after a loan horse is like this.
 
I really don't think you will get anywhere with the RSPCA, not because they don't care, but because it is in the past. Anyone coming to see him now will only see a horse that is recovering and being well cared for. They only have the resources to fight current cases of neglect, and no matter how many people will back you up, unless you have strong evidence (lots of photos for example) I really don't think they would or could prosecute.

However she is not to know that, so I would use it as a threat to back up your claim to at least get your rug back. I would write the rest off, because as others have said, even if you go to court, and win, if she doesn't have any money and she chooses not to pay, then very little will happen.

But I would go all out to at least get her to hand over the rug - unless she has sold it by now. I suspect that from her point of view she feels hard done by - she has a horse on loan that has gone lame and she cant ride and has got to pay the vet bills - she won't feel to blame because she won't see it as her fault that the horse has got laminitis I bet.

I ended up with a rescue horse in poor condition and the girl who half starved him just couldn't see why it was her fault and why she should have to pay for extra feeds and supplements to help him recover. Some people are beyond reason and hope!
 
Kayfamily said:
So glad youv'e got it sorted, please please don't think everyone is like your loanee. I have been looking for a horse to loan for a while but haven't found one yet and I can assure you any animal would have the best of homes so please bear in mind not everyone after a loan horse is like this.
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Thanks, and it's ok, I don't think everyone is. He has been on loan twice before, and although there was issues (such as the second girl lost his passport (although claimed I never gave it to her..) and was looking for someone else to ride him for her without informing me..) and her reason for giving him back was a bit of a fib, I'd rather she'd of been honest. Other than that, people are okay. If I ever put him up for loan again, I will make sure he goes nowhere without a job reference (to prove they have a job and can afford him) and a horsey-related reference :)
 
Llewelyn said:
But I would go all out to at least get her to hand over the rug - unless she has sold it by now. I suspect that from her point of view she feels hard done by - she has a horse on loan that has gone lame and she cant ride and has got to pay the vet bills - she won't feel to blame because she won't see it as her fault that the horse has got laminitis I bet.

I ended up with a rescue horse in poor condition and the girl who half starved him just couldn't see why it was her fault and why she should have to pay for extra feeds and supplements to help him recover. Some people are beyond reason and hope!
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Ah, the vet bill I was trying to get her to pay was for the callout fee and his annual jab (which she agreed to pay for in our contract). We agreed that I would pay for all the laminitis related stuff and she'd pay for the vet as if he was just there having the jab.

Mind you, I am suspicious that she had been feeding him a mollasses chaff. She has a bin full of it but claims it's for another horse.

Anyway, that's in the past now. The girl who's looking after him has 9 of her own already (NINE!!) and said she's looking forward to do doing him for the next fortnight and says he looks very lovely, haha aww. She's even gone to the lengths of picking him up some molly chaff for him to have as I looked in his feed bin the other day and there was a pitiful amount left, and I don't have a car of my own so I would struggle to get some there on my own. Bless her.

Thanks all for your messages, I appreciate it.
 
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